Growing up in Jamaica was fun as I am most fond of telling you all. It is obvious by all who read this blog site that I am proud to be Jamaican. I have spent ,most of my life in America, and even though I love Jamaica, I am also very proud to be a naturalized American. America has done a lot for me, and has been my home since I was a very young girl, and for that I am Loyal. What is Loyalty?, and how do we deal with dis-loyalty, how do we deal with betrayal?, from friends, family, a lover, your spouse or others. Loyalty is- the state or quality of being loyal; faithfulness to commitments or obligations.———-It is of good character to be Loyal. The seat of the betrayer is never good. The Christians condemn the lowly Judas for his betrayal of the Man Of Sorrows, the trust worthy Peter who was to be the faithful follower denounced the christ when threatened him with the same faith……Then the cock-crow!!!….. and the story goes…………….
The second betrayal is the disciple’s betrayal of Jesus. Betrayal has a cyclical effect. Earlier in the evening Jesus had told the disciples Satan had been given permission to test them. Jesus was praying that their faith would not cave in. Peter said his faith would never cave in, that he was willing to go to jail or even to die for Jesus. Jesus told Peter that he would deny Jesus before the rooster’s crow at dawn. But then he added, “Peter, after you get back on your feet, be sure to strengthen your brothers.”
As Jesus is taken captive, Peter follows from afar. A fire is kindled in the middle of the court-yard where Jesus is being questioned and people sit down around the fire to keep warm, Peter among them. A teen age girl sees Peter in the light of the fire, stares at Peter, and thinks she has seen him with Jesus, points to Peter on the fire’s light, “I think that man was with Jesus.”Peter shakes his head, he says, “Miss, I do not know him.” Not long after another person looks at Peter in the firelight, ‘You sure you are not one of them?’ Peter says, very uncomfortable now, ‘No, not me mister. ’ Nothing happens for a time, Peter begins to relax, an hour or so later a third person accuses Peter of being with Jesus, ‘You must have been with him because you sound like a Galilean [Yankee] . Mark has Peter curses and swears an oath, like, “I swear on my mother’s grave that I don’t know this man you are talking about.’ Or worst?….. Just then, Peter hears the rooster crow and he remembers Jesus words, that before the rooster crows, before the light of dawn, Peter would deny he knew Jesus. “Peter went out and wept bitterly.’ Luke 22:31-34, 54-62 –shalomcommunitychurch.mi.us.mennonite
–You all saw what I wrote about Sophia Spencer one of my postings , the dis- loyalty she showed, and that taught me a great lesson from an early age, but I still refused to believe that people could be so deceptive and spiteful and so I continued to look for the best in human being, the baby father came along like the spider in little Miss Muffett, and I wished he had frightened me away, but destiny is destiny, and again there I was pregnant, young visiting a prisoner and caring for him, giving him his first child, then he came out and did me so bad!!…the ultimate betrayal. The friend who takes away your husband, and so forth. It hurts to see someone who you call a friend show their disloyalty. I have been betrayed by many people and I have recounted my stories on Embracing Spirituality time and time again. We must listen to our own mind, trust our instincts more often. Pray against these things, but it has been the Modus Opreandi, of many a people from birth, an inate quality in some astrological signs, I will not mention them here. Tell me what happened to you. Come mek we reason!!.
Come share your story with me of, Loyalty, Disloyalty and betrayal…let us discuss it…
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Afternoon all.
Mi duss did ah goh ask yuh whey yuh did deh yessideh enuh…..Wi miss yuh comments pon di topic….It nuh too late doe….How yuh granny? lol
mowning…maniac…me de yah…me did go some whe yesterday
Mawninggggg
Maniac present and in da buildinggggg
Yes Obara!!!!
If it doesn’t add up to you then there is no reason why you shouldn’t question it. Maniac, it would take a lot to surprise me now a days. Nothing does anymore. Two things would surprise me. One just happens to be me winning the lottery. 🙂
ah who tell yuh? parson!?
I’m not praying for bad things either Rayne…am just questioning something that doesn’t quite add up. Funny enough you would be surprised at who told me to read that psalm.
yeah man maniac, how pastor nuh read dah psalm deh inna church or lick out against it if dem so holy!!, what is that pslam doing in there, check out pslam five and seven too and remember David? is one pslam read fi him specially fi a certain amount ah days and sinting kill him….hmmmmmmm! King rass James come explain yuh Obeah man yuh!
No one said praying for bad things to happen to them…well; a least I’m not. Lol.
No Rayne not with kindness, I mean actually praying that bad things happen to them….’let his children be fatherless’ to me that means to kill him….
Your referring to killing your enemies with kindenss. Everyone has their own ways of dealing with things and/or situations in life maniac. There really isn’t a wrong way or right way to deal with them. Its just a matter of what path your comfortable taking. Some believe in eye for an eye, turn the other cheek, etc. Its about what you feel is right for you. That’s all.
Obara mi juss ah look into sumting…..Mi memba a psalm or couple psalm fi dat matta whey beg God fi punish ppl who have done you wrong (ps. 109) ‘Set thou a wicked man over him and let Satan stand at his right hand’ but the same bible tells you to forgive your enemies, feed them etc. Mi confuse….Whey yuh sey bout dat Nubizness? Mi already noe whey Sharlene an GG stan lol
Pure mad ppl to raas…..Mek I go get some rum deh
Oonu tink sey mi gone…..Mi deh yah!!!!!!!
Obara go ah yuh bed….
Lol. You crazy Obara. Don’t worry ill be the DJ.
Cuss dem nubizness is what I say! Pray fi dem no way!! Lawd mi just buss a rhyme! Lol
Your mother is a very wise woman.
My mom never said pray for them….nope she said “leave them to time.”
Yeah for real Obara…screw them that do me wrong….why pray Good for you? when you wish me harm, why should my children suffer because you wish bad for me, or do me harm, why should I suffer me and God know that my intentions where good and my heart was clean in whatever the betrayal was….” thats all Im saying.” lol
nubizness…mi sey_______________________!
I agree nubizness. Welcome back.
I have a billion and one story fi tell bout betrayal, I believe in what Obara ah seh, screw caa yah wish bad fi mi, or yuh hurt mi afta mi good to yuh…tek ebre ting weh ah come to yuh cyaa Karma gwine get yuh boxside…..yeah… Welcome Rusheila Crossdale mek Shauna St. Clair Binns Gweh Karma gonna get her…just stand back an pree
I’m here maniac.
Alrite den, since oonu gone leff mi, mi gone ah mi bed
As a matta ah fak, mi change mi mine bout pikni…..Nuh waan nuh raas nize ah mi eayz ah nite time…..ah some $$ mi want yah nung
Soh wait, whey ebbrybaddie gone?
OBARAAAAAAAA!!!!
one crazy class indeed…..Obara yuh nearly mek mi pizza jhap outta mi mout!!!! Ah whey di kakarawtid yuh ah sey?>??? Yuh preggy wharrah??????
No fair!!!! me want baby to 🙁
Want mi dawta……but mi nuh hab nuh man 🙁
Mi notis di one Rushelia….she sey shi lub ppl man
Just one crazy class. Lol.
lol GG…
lawd Obara
Maniac is de mad one, GG is de bad one, sharlenerose de mad mad mad, one, nubizness do not care!, rayne888, is de spy!, mi nuh know whey Optimistic gone, and mi nuh memba no more, lol
brave girl she be…lol, ppl man love mi…lol….Rushy gal yuh welcome, caws we nuh have nuh behavia roun here specially me, dwl! nuh judge mi!
yeah man har name unusual, mi loike it!, mi pregnant enuh, mi ago name mi baby suh, if ah gal!
but Obara and Mainy uno nuh see her profile pic
Rushelia Crossdale plz do come back again. Obara u nuh easy enuh mi like d name fi chue
Rusheila nice name Crossdale I Obara am ur friend, come back often…!
Walk good Rushelia….visit us again
Evening grace. You have a good one.
Welcome Rushelia. New faces are always come. Please come and share with the class.
ppl mi tell yuh
Nice talking to u lots… Will read more of the posts on here
Will do Obara Meji
old time people always sey ungrateful doo nuh hab nuh key…mi nuh know wha dat mean, but ah elders and ah dem sey so! ..lol
Rusheila Crosdale, let mi go back in my Obara Meji role and direct you, since you are new to this site, to go in the archives and read TORMENTORS!!!.
Mainy some real ungrateful ppl out deh fi true
gd evening Gracelove, thanks for reaading and commenting, please continue to be with us, we are a family here and we are here to uplift one another not to break each other down!,ase!!!..Guideance
Obara i made it clear to all our mutual friends so it can reach back to her seh anyweh mi see her mi a fuck her up
No but maniac, yuh nuh see sey de gal ah act like Rsuheila Crossdale nyam har white fowl, and owe har something!! Dawg shit!!
The pleasure was ours as well Gracelove….Have a wonderful evening too and join us again sometime….Blessings
Maniac thats more than ungrateful… mi kno all a SHAUNA BINNS SECRETS AND DUTTY DEEDS and i never yet utter none a dem. but now mi understand why she stay suh cawz her life miserable and she nuh like nuh body weh better than her
Ah suh some ah dem tan
It’s been a pleasure talking to you all, and allowing me to express my feelings on these topics, everyone have a peaceful and wonderful evening! about to spend quality time with the family. blessings!!!!
No but maniac, yuh nuh see sey de gal ah act like Rsuheila Crossdale nyam har white fowl, and owe har something!!!.dawggg shitt!!
welcome Rusheila Crossdale..love your name by the way…..what ah way dah blind gal deh bright, no sah she believe sey ah yuh piss har out, mi glad how mi tan enuh, caws if ah mi anywhere mi see har it’s on…shudden sey so still..I am Obara Meji..but mi ignorant man!!
Welcome Rushelia. Nice of you to join us….please share more of your stories….NOW she is what you call an UNGRATEFUL BITCH and the perfect backstabber….Nuh worry, fi har day ahgoh come…..Like mi always sey, all wen friendship mash up, dat is no reason fi talk what was said in confidence while we were friends.
Of course. I’m not gonna lie I do have bad in me. Who doesn’t but I can admit no matter how upset I get or angry. No matter how much I feel I’m getting hurt I still end up doing good. Can’t help it. I know a lot of people who have done me wrong in my life. And yet when they see me they smile like I’m there best friend.
I can so relate to Gogetter’s comment . First time commenting here my friend told me about this post and i can testify to alot of these things being said. Mi did have this socalled friend name SHAUNA BINNS. Mi and her uses to live when we shared apartment most of the money being spent was mine. Mi guh new york mi buy clothes fi her mi and mi mother guh grocery shopping mi pick out fi her food separate cawz she was a vegetarian. Mi mother guh d states buy clothes and underwear fi d gal too.I hasd my… Read more »
Gracelove, I completely understand what you are saying…..I found out the hard way that its better to release them and TRY not to harbor any ill feeling (truss mi, dat shit hard fi do)…..used to get terrible chest pains whenever I did….had to make a choice…..my health or you WICKED person
I understand that Gracelove, but when you hurt me, I am strong enough not to carry you in my heart, I release you, but I WILL NOT PRAY FOR YOU!!, I WILL DAMN YOU TO HELL. I have realeased you, but can never get close to me again, and when the time comes and I stand in the hall of Judgement and ask me why I cussed you I will ask why did you and God allow this person to hurt me. I am too nice to be hurt by those I help, because I go all out for people… Read more »
I respect what you’re saying Obara, but in my experience, praying for those who have done me wrong has helped me to release hurt, pain and resentment, towards them, the rest I leave up to God, I can’t carry that load with me, It only makes me physically sick, and puts road blocks in my life. I can only be responsible for my actions and my reactions in life. not how people treat me. I just trust that whatever I put out into the universe will always come back to me.
raynee888, yuh have lickle bad inna yuh man tell de truth, mi hve it and everybody have it too, mi ignorant and wi cuss, even Osun tell mi not to, and I have had my schadenfruede moments 🙂
Lol. Got it Obara. Thanks for the clear up. Hate to get on you ladies bad sides. Lol. Its hard for me to stop being a nice person. Guess I was just born that way.
Shi really tell yuh madda GG??? No sah, ah she name cowl
Obara yuh did hav some ‘MAN’ dung di road whey mi use to gi dem tings fi dem pikni, buy dem likka, dem come ah mi yard fi food an alla dem tings deh….dem tun roun tell lie pon mi – sey whey mi neva sey an alla talk bout how ME ah dash wud pon gyal an bare tings – but ah good fi mi caw some ppl nuh matta how yuh try fi help dem, yuh cyaan tame dem
Nuff gyal tell lie pon mi to
GG…she ago pay fi it doah!, God nah sleep!
Obara every weekend mi buy d gal her grocery enuh as God liveth kno cawz she nuh like spend and mi seh d gal nuh keep in nutten
mi say if mi fi list out d tings dem a cawz ppl wudda kno mi is who
d next one after mi basically school n clothe d gal.. she teef mi tings and mi rush her bout it d gal call mi fone and aguh tell mi say d tings dem weh mi use to do weh mi mumz nuh kno bout she aguh tell her and dis a inna mi early 20ies enuh
GG..I obara Meji shudden say this..but what the heck..all dem deh gal deh we sharpen machette fah, or garlic we ice prick…yeah I said it…and wha!!
those people you call them BITCHES…MANIAC!!
mi say after mi tek in dis gal… when she hungry a mi feed her.. provide transportation fi her and cawz mi have a few links all get job fi di gyal all drawz mi buy fi di call wear yuh nuh kno say mi n her hab a lil disagreement and d gal shell dung d whole a mi bizniz a road
my baby fadda did pop dung, and come round and was begging me, from money to front, well de front he never got but I gave him my money, I told a cab drivr one morning and he cussed and said Obara you are interferring with God’s work, God is beating the man and you are inteferring, not even when them sick maniac, mi nuhbizness!!
you cyann wish me fi dead and mi ah beg god rise, you, no way jose!, my prayer is anyone who wishes me harm, they will see heaven long before me, God will take controll!
Mi undastan whey yuh ah seh desso Obara…..IF mi see sey dem need prayer (if they sick etc) mi will pray fi dem, but mi nah lie it hard fi BLESS THOSE WHO CURSE YOU
I don’t really get too close to people for the simple reason that they always seem to betray me…. When my child’s father and I broke up, I was going through a very stressful time – not because of the breakup itself, but a lot of things were happening – my Aunt was visiting at the time and I went to visit them. Years later a cousin of mine told me that this girl (a total stranger mind you) saw my picture and said ‘Isn’t she so and so? the same one that been acting all crazy since her babydaddy… Read more »
no rayne888…I do not believe in fighting fire with fire, I never said that, if yuh hurt me, mi leave yuh to God, but I will not pray fi you!!
Hmm. So your saying its more of a fight fire with fire sort of thing. But more on the lines with positive energy against negative energy.
@Gracelove…I do not subscribe to the christian concept of praying for my enemies!, the yoruba traditional people says we must CUSS DEM!!, why shuld you do me evil and i pray for you, no I will not, I will not. Jesus did not say that King james and his scholars did..dem cyann fool me!!
I can agree with you there Gracelove.
When it comes to this topic I’m sure we all gonna need a blanket and pillow cause we’re going to be here a long time on this one. We all have stories to tell.
Thank you Obara for this post, I can truly relate. My mother always says that I need protection from myself, because I give too much to people, sometimes to the point where I don’t have anything left for me. just because one of my blessings in life is that I love to see people happy….but it hurts me to see that since childhood some of those same people who I thought were my friends…. who I’ve loved and extended so much of myself too, always seem to betray or turn their backs on me…. I even started to question my… Read more »
So stawt already nuh man!!!! mi ah wait
lawd GG start it caws mi have nuff to !!
Obara mi have too much fi tell too damn much