September 10, 2014 Obara Meji 274Comment

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A wonderful day to everyone! This is my prayer for you all today and all the days to come. Although in truth all our days cannot be wonderful or else we would have a short life, but we can however pray not to see devastation, and to have victory if problems should arrive. Last night was spectacular, our discussions which we have been having for the past two nights have me feeling rejuvenated and refreshed. I thank all who were on the board last night and I have learned much from everyone, and it shall continue. Learning and sharing is fun.

Yw, I do not know what to say about you. You are indeed a man of exceptional character and someone who  I thank Olodumare for bringing into our lives here on this blog, Embracing Spirituality, and I should also thank your dear wife. I could read your posts all day every day, and I urge you to keep sending them in, you are appreciated, Ousn will bless you, ase!. You have now got us meeting in the nights with thought provoking subjects (you did it, yes you did), even cgoh was with us last night and we have not seen him in a while. Here again Yw has put together a topic which we can discuss about and add our own thoughts and questions. The Intersection of Material and The Spiritual Plane. Well Yw, you just stepped into my backyard, because these are topics that I love very very much.

There are many realms as you all now or perhaps do not know throughout time and space, and within these realms are beings which resides there. Some of these beings have never been to our earth realm and that is for many reasons, I will perhaps do a post on that in the future, and some beings interact with human beings for many different reasons. If you get a plain glass of water and put it down, wait for a few minutes then go back and look at it, most often you will see bubbles, plenty  bubbles floating in the glass, these are how beings are within time and space and some have the ability to materialize into form, maybe not human form, but because of our human limitations (mind limitations as human beings), we may not even understand or be able to imagine these forms or what they may look like, some are what we would see as grotesque looking, and yet they are very benevolent.

Bare with me, I am getting somewhere, and at the risk of Cami saying that I have written to long a introduction, let me not linger on certain things and get to the point. (Cami, mi jook yuh hush). The soul of the human being never comes to earth, never. The first matrix, explained this somewhat, where the beings are in something akin a spaceship or something like that (figet de ship part, that is not a part of my explanation), when they come to earth, they are plugged into something like a machine and then they materialize to earth, sort of like a  holographic figure. If you did not see the Matrix 1, the first one, de rest ah garbage, please watch it, it tells a lot of the spiritual realm and of the earth realm and many other things in between. The body which is plugged in represents the soul, as shown in the Matrix the Movie. Now I am not saying that this is exactly how it happens, as a matter of fact I am certain it does not happen that way, but for our understanding the movie had to show it like that (or perhaps they also are not sure how it is done), but what you really need to know is that our soul forever stays in time and space, it never comes to earth. forget the BS of someone selling their soul, it can never happen.

The soul is like the breath of the spirit, and the spirit is what motivates the body. When the body dies, the spirit lives on and ascend or descend, depending its next journey into time and space, the soul being somewhat like its engine, or as I have said before, its breath. The spirit is allowed to come to earth, the soul never comes, its access to the earth plane and other realms is through the spirit, it can be described as a over Lord even. When you feed the spirit you feed the soul, when you access the spirit, you access the soul. When you dishonor the spirit, you dishonor the soul. Two are together but separate from each other, because while the spirit is consciousness, the soul is super or extreme consciousness which the spirit will never comprehend and would not even try to.

Within every human being we can however feel the beat of the soul through what is known as our solar plexus, also known as the pit of the stomach, that is the only connection the flesh has to the soul. Jamaican people would say, mi belly bottom. There is a very long and intricate explanation to this, things you will never see in any books, but as we grow and open up more, I may, one day explain this thoroughly or when we get the school, these things will be taught there to worthy students. The Spirit is connected through the medulla oblongata, or as Jamaicans would sey “nuh lick him inna him neck back”, lol. Jamaican have sense, but…..aye sah. Meditation is needed to understand the Solar Plexus to a certain degree which we humans are allowed to access or understand. We will explore this further. Cami ah you shut mi upppp!, lol

Ok let me stop here, I just wanted to share something, it maybe a little off the topic, but Cami mek mi fraid fi type, mi easy fi shame enuh. Please enjoy this post as I am sure you will, I certainly did. Also add your own thoughts.

 

Intersection of Material and the Spiritual Plane, by blogger YW

 

I wanted to start this post by saying that I do not KNOW anything. I believe, think, and have an opinion on many things but I cannot claim to know (only in regards to myself). Alright, for this post I will try to continue, and expand on, the concept of cognition. In the last post on Perception – https://embracingspirituality.com/2014/09/04/communication-perception-and-cognition-a-curious-look-by-blogger-yw/ – Cami mentioned “…data which suggest that babies are cognitive of the spiritual realm until about age 2…” I think I remember reading or hearing about that somewhere but could not seem to find it on the internet, so I will talk of what I believe.

As mentioned before, I believe that we are all a part of the Universal Consciousness before we are born and when we “die”. While not exact, this is in essence a part of the spiritual realm. When we enter the material realm a part of us (our soul) is still a part of the spiritual realm – that never changes. A newborn is still aware of the spiritual realm upon entering the “world” but as it/he/she/we age we relinquish contact or communication with this realm as we embrace this material plane and all that comes along with it (*materialism-excessive concern with things of a material nature, i.e. money, sex, fame, etc.)…. To me, because the spiritual realm is where consciousness resides, it is where we get the parts of our soul and a bit for our mind. The material realm is where we get the components for our bodies and here again, a bit for our mind. The common denominator between both realms is that bit we get from both (spiritual and material) for our minds….This would be the area (our minds) that we need to develop to perceive the spiritual realm.

Now, if the spiritual plane and the material plane exist in the same space how would we differentiate between the two? Well, it is easy to perceive things in the material plane because information is given to us. – Caution here because we are taught how to perceive in the material realm (parents, teachers, etc). – Therefore, there is a basic level of perception, in which we use only our five senses without adding cognition to the mix. In essence, this is looking at things on the surface. A good analogy is that of a body of cloudy water – lots going on under the surface, if we would just look. Sadly, some refer to this surface level as reality. It is my opinion, however, that reality is much, much more than what we see on the surface…

To perceive things on the spiritual plane, we need to develop and utilize cognition. As stated in the aforementioned discussion on perception, cognition (used to mean 6th sense) may be viewed as an amplifier to our five senses, which impacts our ability to perceive things around us. Basically, developing and utilizing our cognitive faculties is what we would need to do to perceive things in and of a spiritual nature. I am currently working on thoughts on the possibilities of adding cognition to each of the basic five senses. What I am wondering about is if various abilities or gifts depend on a higher level of perception that comes from cognition added to a certain sense. Again, to clarify…if ability to perceive auras come from enhanced sight or if perceiving spirits has to do with sight, touch, or hearing. Touch and sound because of vibrations…Will have to put a pin in this thought…. Okay, let me try to regain my thoughts here.

Hmmmm….So, how do we develop cognition and utilize it along with our basic five senses? Bwoy, I don’t have a definitive answer for you but I have opinions, thoughts, and beliefs. I know this may sound like a broken record but: look within (develop insight). A. Try looking in a mirror and looking deep within your own eyes. Keep doing this until you ask yourself, “Who the hell is that?” I know it sounds crazy and it just might be because my understanding of the word “crazy” is simply different from the norm. Do any of you know anyone named Norm? (Sorry, bad joke). B. Try taking a walk as close as you can to nature (without encountering any bears or tigers, or such, especially the hungry ones). Focus all your energy on using your five senses; one at a time. See all you can, define all the scents in the air that you can detect, etc. C. Try to recount some of your experiences and encounters for the day past (over time, go further back as far as you can go). Recall as much detail as you can. Evaluate your mood and then query the reason you felt as such. D. Be quiet and still for at least 5 minutes a day. Clear your mind, breathe deeply, and “feel around” for tension in various parts of your body, then consciously decompress. Doing these things will help to get your mind calm and more in tune with your body as well as your spirit. E. Question yourself, your surroundings, and all that you know. Assess the reason(s) why you hold the beliefs that you hold (religion, abortion, prostitution, democracy, socialism, everything). Move away from “group think” and have conviction in what you believe for yourself. In doing this, I believe, you are separating yourself from the constraints of the material plane which clouds access to the spiritual plane. In my opinion, this grants you basic access to the spiritual realm.

Now, you have done all these things and feel confident in your liberation from the shackles of the material world. You have attained a basic entrance to the spiritual realm. Be careful at this point because we are human and must humble ourselves (be weary of arrogance, ego, and pride) and keep in mind that: 1. we can never know everything; there is always someone greater than us, 2. We are human and are a part of the material world even when “awake”, 3. As in the material world, there are various points of view in the spiritual realm. One does not necessarily discount the other. You now have to be able to operate within the realm of possibilities.

I will address dreaming specifically because most of us remember bits of our dreams. Dreaming, in my opinion, is our spiritual mind groping around for the spiritual aspect within a particular experience or observation that our material mind cannot quite comprehend. As we become more attune to our spiritual side, our dreams make more sense to us. To me the sky is the limit as to what we may be able to access, develop, or harness. Here are some thought (s) to leave you with: If we are all a part of the Universal Consciousness and we all have a spirit (our soul) which powers our bodies, then spirits must be real. AND if spirits are real and we share some common factor (our spirit), then it becomes highly important for us to honour our ancestors and various spirits that guide us because they are around and a part of our lives – even if many of us cannot see them (no, I cannot see them either – but maybe with time and experience)….

Ogún ọmọdé kì í ṣeré gba ogún ọdún; ọgbọ̀n àgbà kì í ṣàṣàrò fún ọgbọ̀n oṣù. /
Twenty youngsters can’t play together for twenty years, as thirty elders can’t hold discussions for thirty months……Yoruba Proverb! 

[Change is inevitable]

 

All religions are valid as long as it teaches peace and love…..Obara Meji!

 

There are no disappointments in life, only lessons learned…..Obara Meji

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Ty
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Pleasant morning to you all my spiritual family…May Olodumare continue to bless you all and your families…May you never face devastation and overcome all obstacles…Today as we honor our ancestors, we also send prayers to all who lost family during 911 13 years ago…

I have been thinking about this topic and will continue…this one is intriguing…

I cannot wait until my spirit ascends to the point that I do not have to return to the earth realm…I will continue to feed my spirit and will make this trip to earth count…

i am very curious about the other beings in the spiritual realms…I wonder why they (especially the higher forms) would want to contact or connect with us ( the low earth forms),…Is sorry dem sorry fi we?

Cami
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Hope we can continue this because I was on call today and me miss OUT! onu run de post so till me don’t know where fi catch up. Yw, again me apologies.

Yw
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Cami, you don’t have a thing to apologize for..Love and light forever

Cami
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Obara! you impart knowledge on us daily. What you are seeing here is we growth. Never feel like you knowledge gone a grung gone waste…it a tek root…ASE

Ty
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I also have a question about sleep….there are many phases…rem sleep is thought to be a time when we can travel, dream, enter the spiritual realm,…is this true?

Ty
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I wanted to ask a question about while here just in our daily lives…the Jcan phrase, him spirit come before him…eg, yw go out on the road, before he comes back, my dog rushes to the door and wags her tail…then a few minutes later he comes home…

Ty
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What fascinates me even more now is as we embark on this journey deeper into the spiritual world, we will need to come back here to the earth plane… I bet sometimes we will be sad,..

Ty
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The spiritual world, our concept of this earth plane, our souls…what a lovely title, intersection…

Ty
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Obara, I hope we can revisit this blog…so much more to dissect and go into…it made me think…and think hard…

NuNu
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Good night folks! Sleep well

Ty
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Night Nunu, I just saw your comment above, I am doing well, thank you…

Ty
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The movie avatar was a good one too…it had a lot of good points too…

Ty
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I am also glad you cleared up the ” selling your soul ” crap… Another catch phrase the should be removed from our vocabulary….

Ty
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The older I get, the more I respect old Jamaicans and them teachings…wat a set a people smart…

Ty
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These Asians now bout…in almost all martial arts they have a ” death move” that involves the solar plexus…hmmm

Ty
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Obara thank you for breaking down the differences between the soul, spirit, and body…me shame fi seh but I used to interchangeably use spirit and soul…o mase o

Ty
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I have seen The bubbles in water, and I never thought of it being spiritual, thanks for sharing…I meditate with just a glass of water, and I must say it can be quite interesting…

Ty
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It is sad that this earth realm restricts us so much that we have limited interactions with the spirit realm…

Thank God I am awakening…

Ty
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night everyone, I went to work out cand back to the party late…interesting read above…I read thru all the comments…

NuNu
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Good night Ty, how are you? It seems as if everyone went to bed tell Yw good night fi mi

MTH
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Night YW say hello to Ty for me. Nyah thanks for stopping by tonight.

NuNu
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No Teach, I think he was telling me that my concept of who God was, is wrong. It seems as if in the Spiritual realm, I don’t know if is because of waves or frequency, they can “see” what you understand or how you think. I’m assuming because I asked if he was God he was trying to explain to me

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Sorry guys mi deh try keep up with the conversation and read di convo Yw deh have wid himself fi put een mi two likkle shillings but di page nah work with me atall it’s unresponsive and a cut off every 5 seconds. Mi nuh want Teach think seh wi nah learn or get it

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Good night Yw tell Ty love n light. Night Nyaha sleep well.

Obara Meji
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Àṣẹ Courtney!

Obara Meji
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Thank you Nyaha, I needed that!

Obara Meji
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He said the spiritual realm was not real Nunu ?

MTH
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Interesting experience Nunu

NuNu
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Sorry fam, I got distracted si all teach a dash wud pon wi deh! This intersection of spiritual and material plane have always been interesting to me even though I perceived things from a religious point of view, all the beliefs, rationalization start to fall by the wayside as I become spiritually aware. I’d like to talk about an encounter I had with a male energy this was when my thinking was black and white with a splash of gray. Suh of course mi did think a duppy/ demon. I asked him if he was “God or Jesus” he said no his name (can’t pronounce it)it start with a T and end with N. He told me that my concepts were not accurate. I wasn’t understandi g correctly the spiritual system that it wasnt real. Mi swear to unoo him tell mi suh, mi ketch mi fraid and back pedal as fast as mi could. Now I understand more, I would have stayed longer “with him” to see what he would tell me, I just wasn’t ready at that time

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Hey fam, I’m here

Yw
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Well….night all. Teach, thank for all that you do. I truly appreciate all the time and effort that you use in hopes of teaching us. Have a great night and see you in the book discussion tomorrow…

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Hush yah Obara i am not ready nopes sum time mi head tuff like turtle back as Yazzy stated. Or maybe is preconditioning but mi a read the post 2-3x. Plus sometime mi shame fi ask question nuh lie. Is possibly im thinking im far behind…idk rasta. I would like to discuss more bout the beings here with us, realms, location of the soul.

Courtney
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I want to know about the grotesque benevolent beings to be honest lol I been seeing some off the wall stuff.

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On that note, goodnight all. Stay well

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Oh my fault, I didn’t see the “lol” I don’t know how to delete a comment 🙁 goodness help me, I am new to this whole thing. Anyway, what I said I meant.

Courtney
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Don’t be troubled Hun. Hugs feel free to express yourself.

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Obara Meji, I am not a blogger, if I may add my little two cents, I have learned quite a lot. The post today got me thinking and allowed me to enter a space I had concluded I would never enter. Your time is not wasted, please share more. The people who are ready are here and more will come.

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Nyaha, I second that Obara Meji’s work is not wasted. Ohh, mi just see the lol to. Sorry…

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Yw, I am loving the conversations with yourself. Nunu I too and looking forward to reading your stories.

Yw
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Nyaha, I am so glad to see you here. You really put some great posts up top and I thank you for that.

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Good evening all. Hope your day has went well.

Yazzy
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Good night Nyaha

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Odaro fambo nice read yw thanks for sharing sum a u thoughts. No bredda mi neva tink yu normal r abnormal jus a real thinker. A joka too lol

Yw
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Kia B, night hope you doing well..

Yazzy
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Kia Boo!!!! Night mi sweetie.

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I see Toy ask about time and space, Yw. Are you all aware that the months we know them to be aren’t factual? For instance, July inserted and name fi Julius Cesar and I believe January was an additional month along with a few more. So what we know as time is artificial.

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me: Yw, Nyaha ask ’bout “breaking the spirit”. I know is not related to what she was saying but that made me think about Horcruxes from Harry Potter. Wha yu tink?
YW: me, yu have rahtid sense!! A come ask mi ’bout Harry Potter. Tek one piece ah stick an shout abracadabra an see if nutten happen…Blasted eidiat!!! No, hear mi, me, I think we can learn from anything. Any book, cartoon, game, anything. The Horcrux thing interesting because the idea was that a fragment of the spirit can be implanted into an object as a way to protect the body. However, to create a Horcrux, you would have to scar the spirit. See it. Balance. Sacrifice the spirit for the body. or As Obara Meji mentioned up top (in regards to what some kids have to go through in the physical world) sacrifice body for spirit. See it. Sacrifice..

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I think Harry porter has some hidden gems!!Hollywood is full of spiritualist like obara said the matrix(first movie) was very accurate in terms of how our spirit exists on this plane. I’m a reader as a kid I read all the books but the series deals with realms, projection spells and all sorts of spiritual topics in a very fanciful way

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Damn… Way too deep Yw.

Words have power. That’s why daily affirmations manifest and mold us into whom we choose to be…

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Don’t leave out thoughts too. If we are deeply in tune with ourselves, then we can be powerful in thought as well.

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Yes Yazzy. We have to give thanks everyday. Appreciate the positive in our lives, accept or overcome the negative. Happiness or contentment comes from within. It cannot be bought with money, flesh, or nothing from this realm. Not saying that we cannot enjoy what is here. Just that that deep “full” feeling comes from inside.

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Precisely Yw and Cami… Which is why the word Alignment has been haunting me throughout these discussions…

Keep going…

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Lol, yuh si dem people inna dis fambily yah!

Courtney
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Well wow my tea done gone cold waiting on nunu stories!!!!currently sipping iced tea lol

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Lololol Court, you’re a mess.

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Me apologizing, I’m at work so me only have minutes fi read and write.

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Ok Cami

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Hey Yaz…soon come back. YW see me throw out something dung a battam de…work it. Why Ty? Tell her evening.

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Awright, me an YW gwen reason..feel free to jump in everyone..
me:Den YW, how them tell us sticks and stone will break our bones but words can never harm us?
YW: me, hear nuh, bredren..word have power suh nuh mek nobody tell yuh otherwise.
me: How yu mean?
YW: in this material plane, when someone call you a name, they are labeling you. The intent behind the name carry power. It is why many take the time to think before naming their children. It is the reason behind the offense of the word “nigger”.
me: But it can only have power if we let it
YW: to a point but when someone understands how to utilize words, sounds, vibrations, frequencies, then there is an advantage in their favor

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I agree with both points of view to an extent. I think words are very powerful and can definitely hurt you. Teach always cautions against speaking bad things in prayer and your daily affirmations. I feel that words infused with enough power behind them can hinder as well as help, many of us do not know the power of the tongue.

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Yes, Courtney, is the intent that we have to assess, even in ourselves. “Why did I say it that way”?… If someone takes offense but we did not mean it in a hurtful way then, we have no reason to feel bad. Especially, if they will not give you (or are open to) the chance to explain.

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Night Yw, thank you for your response. I will be in and out, because I am helping my son with some homework.

Yw
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No problem, Toy. I hope it helped.Nuff love to di little man..

Yw
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A lot of really good posts were made earlier today. If anyone hasn’t I suggest reading them. They are some very substantive thoughts, questions, and answers…Check dem out

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Cgoh came thru last night and ripped! I loved it. Shout out Cgoh… Please dump your thoughts on us tonight again… It was well received …very insightful

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Besides dreams has anyone had any astral projection stories? I could share a couple of mine plus some of the things I’ve seen

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Nunu plz do share! I love astral projection stories… I’ve seen my spirit renter my body before but I have never been able to watch my spirit project… And I can barely membrane weh I guh…

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Ohh, I was thinking about that spiritual vampirism that Obara Meji mentioned earlier in the discussion. I think she did a post titled “be careful of the energy you keep in your space” – or along that lines. That carry me to manipulation in the spiritual realm and the material plane. Wha you tink bout this?

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Yw I always wonder about frequency and energy surrounding a person and how that can be manipulated to alter someone’s mood

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Sorry, wrong post…
Alright Nuns…I think you have the two plane (material and spiritual) and we can be manipulated on either. To me if you talking about frequency, vibration, sound, then that may have to do with voice. Hmmm. I think each sense have various layers and various manifestations of change they can affect on the different levels. That sound clear or muddled?

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Sep 10, 2014 @ 20:35:22
Pit is real Yw,oonuh gas. N talk bout it, ah doing a reading.
Mi naw lie but mi ask mi self if a pit latrine yu ah talk. Mek ah tell yuh a story bout dat. No NO serious time now…

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Yw, thanks! Your response earlier was very much on point. I needed you to elaborate some more…. This was in response to comments made by me last night… Weh yuh provoke!

Obara, when you are thru and I have your attention for a quick min… Can you answer my last question to you above plz? Thanks so much. I appreciate your effortless responses…

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Yazzy, you mean if a person can be spiritual and “bad”? or the difference in “bad” and “good”? or importance and relevance of choices? Clarify a little for me, please….

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Sorry Yazzy. Somehow I did not see this post last night…Sorry again. As for more thoughts on that I think “bad and good” can be complex. I do not believe that any person is completely “good” or completely “bad”. I do not believe in perfection – people make mistakes, it is a part of being human. The idea of the yin-yang is what I apply here. BALANCE, MODERATION. Now when certain thoughts come to mind, I have to assess if they are worth exploring…If we link this approach to the sexual deviance and energy (intent and act) posts earlier in the discussion, you may get a better idea of what I mean. A pure thing can be corrupted by mal-intent even if the act itself seems “good”. To me this is what TRUTH is (intent)…

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Yw here’s your response to me above “you touched on something yesterday with the “why be good thing” that when put in conjunction with the idea of choice/destiny and balance made me think that a person may have significant spiritual substance and still be deemed “bad”. There strength in spirit may come from the purpose they need to fulfill….Just a thought, sorry if it makes no sense..” … I totally agree and I loved how you were able to out all that in words… Do you have any further thoughts on it???

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Ok suh Yw what is the order of the night?

Yw
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Sorry Nuns. Mi did a read some of di posts dem. You set it off nuh. Pon di left or right…

NuNu
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Good night everyone!

Yazzy
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Good night Nunu Boooo!

NuNu
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Night Yazz!

Yw
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Good Night all!!! YW slips in the class unnoticed – to the theme of Pink Panther

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Good night Professor Yw.

Yw
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Night, Night Yazstar. I loved the thoughts you dropped earlier. I’m trying to go through the posts for anything I may have missed – but it nuh easy…

NuNu
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Yailings Yw

Yw
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Night Nuns. Big points mentioned earlier, thank you!! Cgoh and AMH attending tonight?

Courtney
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Aye!

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