October 3, 2014 Obara Meji 165Comment

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Power, what a great topic! Yw is the blogger who comes in every now and again and throws our thinking caps on. He is great at keeping our minds in tip top shape with topics such as these., almost like a work out, nut for our thoughts. I waited until today to post this one, I did not want to distract from its importance as a topic. I will not give an introduction to it (Cami, guh release mi), I wanted you all to get the full effect of Yw”s words and thoughts and perhaps some of his humor.  This will also make for a great discussion today so come mek we reason. Thank you Yw for sharing with us.

 

Firstly, sorry if this is a bit fragmented because my mind is hopping to a few different spots on this subject. I ask that you bear with me because of my belief that all thoughts are linked or can be linked – hopefully, this explains why this piece may seem so fragmented. Ok, let’s go:

POWER!!! A curious thing…What is it and how does it fit into our lives? What is it worth to you? To me, power is having the ability to affect or reject change. Some may say that that is influence, to me it is the same. There are two types of power, to my mind: external and internal.       The LOX say: “Money, power, respect all you need in life”. The common factor between all these things is influence. These are external examples of power or influence.

Authority figures have a certain power over us because they are expected to influence our behavior. Our parents, our teachers, our caregivers all influence our behavior by teaching us. This leaves us wide open to indoctrination. Our religious beliefs, political affiliation, outlook on gender, all these things usually come from our upbringing. When we go to school we are taught various beliefs of the prevailing time. I say this because if we went to school when it was believed that the world was flat, then we would likely believe that the world is flat. This is important, to me, because it gives us a view of a system that grooms us to be susceptible to suggestions. In any subject, most things are a matter of suggestion. This comes from the nature vs. nurture debate. We are grown to look towards nurture more than what IS OUR nature….

Nature is where we derive our internal power. It is of the utmost import to discover and accept our nature. That comes from, you guessed it, self-inquiry, introspection, and reflection. I believe that this is behind the thought to: “take the log from your eye before you tell someone of the speck in theirs”. Our nature is who we are at the foundation. It is the seed in which we come from. It varies from person to person but once you discover or define your core, then the roots will take hold and the seed will grow. This is what spirituality is…The discovery, acceptance, and development of OUR nature. This touches on what Yazzy brought up in one of our past discussions about someone being “not good” but spiritual. Yes, I believe that someone can be spiritual and “bad” because that is their nature.

So, this must make us ask: Can we change our nature? Now, earlier I said that it is important to accept our nature. If you are not satisfied with what you find when you explore your consciousness, then you have not reached to the essence of your nature. If you feel unhappy with who you are, then you are not in touch with your core. However, you can be happy with who you are and unhappy with certain circumstances of life. This takes us back to external factors and power.

(Sorry for hopping around again) Hmmm…money, power, respect…

MONEY: we live in a monetary based society and so many people measure success by money. Now, we cannot know what a person has in their account, so we tend to look at their external possessions: their car, the way they dress, where they live, etc. but these are often misleading measures of…what again?…success, achievement, hard-work?….well you decide. When we become obsessed with possessions then they possess us…I am not saying that you should not have nice things. I am saying not to let the nice things be a source of unhappiness.

So, we have a system that grooms us towards nurture in a monetary based society with a media that promotes possessions and celebrity as a measure of success. This seems a bit too structured to be coincidence. In fact, I would go as far as to say that it is a purposeful distraction for us. You see, this system keeps us away from our nature, from our spirituality. There is so much more to say but I will stop with this: “In this system who has power?” “Are you okay with the illusion of power (i.e. money, power, respect)? Or rather, are you okay with allowing the system to have power over you?” “What is power to you?”

 

SIDENOTES:

  • Respect is one of those words or concepts that are a matter of perspective. For some respect is fear, for some it is reputation, for some it is admiration…it all depends on what it means to you and how you derive it…In fact, power is also a “perspective” To me, not because someone can do something means that they must. Does not showing your “power” mean that it is not there? …potential vs. kinetic…. We tend to look at the action rather than the possibility because that is what we can see….
  • Thought on Harnessing empathy: when we get to the point where we utilize empathy so much that is always “on”, then we see people differently. (This touches on cognition and the senses.) Upon meeting someone, their emotions or mood is very noticeable and with experience may many times be categorized into certain possibilities. From this, an idea of their personality may be….ascertained. Now, if this is true, then is it possible to affect another person’s mood through our own? How does that play into a society that makes many susceptible to suggestion?
  • Ideas relating to power are a big part of our conversations last week. At what point do our parents release us from their domain? More importantly, when do we release them from dominion over us? This goes not only for parents but for anyone we may keep in our lives…

 

Ọ̀bẹ kì í mú kó gbẹ́ èkù ara rẹ /
A knife cannot be so sharp as to carve its handle. …..Yoruba Proverb!

[We need one another.]

All religions are valid as long as it teaches peace and love…..Obara Meji!

There are no disappointments in life, only lessons learned…..Obara Meji

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Yw
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All thoughts are linked, so no thought is ever complete… what we do when we think no one is looking gives us insight into who we are. Our intentions at these times gives us a good idea of how we would use power or how it would affect us. Without consequence, how would you use power?

charles206
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We all know that power itself is evil. Power change good people. Like the saying, “you can’t know a person till when he have money” power is intoxicating. Morning everyone once again.

Cami
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Cami

Charles, power isn’t evil in of itself…it becomes evil through the individual who posses it prematurely, without knowledge, respect for others and experience. Hence, as I stated earlier lack of conscience equity corrupts power.

charles206
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Cami! I have sat down to think abt what yw said earlier on. I really do not want to go in details why I kept saying power is evil. While, I guess we all are family despite the continent we are operating from. I have once found myself in a situation, where I look back and ask myself is this the same person who profecial love to me. Let me save this gist for some other day Cami, I don’t want to argue, power is good. Depending on who is incharge. It’s evil because you can do BAD with it. We all really need to understand what power is. Being the breadwinner of the home is power, I can wrong you and you would turn it around and say no food for me. We can go on with this topic with different opinions and I will refuse to agree. Cami, power is evil.

Cami
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Cami

*lack of conscience coupled with equity…*

Yw
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Charles, greetings, glad to have you join us, and thank you for sharing your thoughts. I’m going to number my thoughts here so that they may flow better:
1. Personally, I do not think that power itself is evil. It may have a corruptive effect but it is up to individual how they will use whatever power they may have.
2. Power can be internal or external meaning: internal when WE possess it but external when IT possesses us. If you have read the Lord of the Rings (strange, I know) there is a character named Tom Bombadil (if I remember well). He was the only character that I remember the ring having no POWER over. It simply had no effect on him. For others who wore the ring, they thought they had power but it was the ring that help power over them.
3. I wonder about power because I believe that true power comes from within. What this means is that it is an internality. However, generally, people cannot see within others so they look for externalities to assess power. To me, that shift is important because it changes where power lies. In fact, I would go as far as to say: it changes the very definition of power (to most)
4. Sorry…but I can’t help myself…I have the theme song from “Charles in charge” stuck in my head….sorry…what is life without laughter?…

charles206
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Good morning, it pains me that most times discussions like will be going on, I’m fast asleep because of the time difference.

Cami
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Cami

Yw, got us on a roll and gone sleep. Me decide against the snack and going to down some red wine…Ty yu have yu stash? lol

Courtney gone, NuNu ago come again….me ago get me night cap on , lolol…good night my sistrens…peepers go night cap or love up onu bedmates. Obara! GOOD NIGHT with your busy self, lol.

Yw
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Yu si it, Cami. Mi end up a “roll” outta bed inna di early morning. Tek care yah mi sister and mi wi link yuh later….(watch yah now)….heehee

Cami
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Cami

Morning Lady Ty and Sir Yw. Ty thanks for the offer and Yw…lol you jokes are infectious, lol.

Morning Charles and All bloggers and peepers.

Ty
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I have a stash Cami…anytime u ready…

Courtney
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Good night guys sleep is winning the fight

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Night good people tired.com
Can we change our nature…that a good question. I feel that yu can but yu have to want the change n all that comes with it. Sometimes people say they want to change them wicked ways lol but true its in their nature they cant change. Possibly with introspection n inner reflection one may change. Change really does come from within… Hope i make sense tru mi tired it
might not. Lol

NuNu
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NuNu

Well mi lata dan rass beg yuh pardon( mi did fall asleep). Mi neva si seh Yw gone sleep, well this is a topic that can be discussed at length. So mi qu ketch the discussion when unoo group up agen

Yw
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NuNu, yuh need one new new sash. Mi get weh di odda night ’cause no detention coulda gwan….beyyyyy!! Ah joke, ah joke. Big up and hails AMH and Cgoh fi mi.

Cami
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Cami

BRB i’m going to look a snack.

Ty
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Cami
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Cami

Chicken gonorrhea.

NuNu
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NuNu

Ty lolol! “Mi deh yah tink seh mi covered unda di blood is a pity mi neva memba seh blood and maskita is like Kim Kardashian to a black man some extraction haffi gwaan” lolololol

NuNu
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NuNu

I want to understand in the context of the post what is the definition of ‘nature’. Brer Y said that this is where we derive our ‘internal power’ and ‘spirituality is the discovery, acceptance and development of our nature’. So is it the ‘untainted essence’ that comes from the ‘Source’ or are u talking about the tendencies, desires, instincts that govern the way be behave eg essential qualities eg kind hearted etc?

Yw
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Night, night all: Cami, Yazzy, Ty, NuNu, Toy, Courtney, and everybody else that may be on. Ketch unto later…

Cami
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Cami

Good night BRO. enjoy the weekend with the boys and mommy Ty. Nice garden weather a gwan.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Kool kool. Thanks for the post. We appreciate it very much. Plz keep sending in ya thoughts… your thoughts seems to be a big hit

Yw
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Ohh! SORRY, SORRY…Thank you, Obara Meji, for allowing me to share some of my thoughts. – Should have said this at the beginning but was too excited, I suppose- Rahtid, ah quick draw Mcgraw, to blurt neat…

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Yw, can nature and nurture be viewed or rather measure on a global scale??

Yw
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I do not know that one Yazsters. I think that would be pretty difficult to measure everyone’s nature globally. If you are talking about negativity and positivity as energy in and of the world, then I believe that there has to be a balance and maybe there is just more negativity than positivity in the world at this time. That is why, to me, it is very important for us to CHOOSE which path we want to trod…

NuNu
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NuNu

Hey Courtney! Mi deh yah a panka panka beautiful Yazzy lol

Courtney
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Hey boo

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Yuh tan deh panka panka Nunu! Lololol

toy7318
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Night everyone, I love the topic picture, Obara.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Hey sweetie Toy

NuNu
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NuNu

Hey Toy!

Courtney
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Good night to all

Just got off from work. Apologies for my absence last night had to work . Hope all of you beautiful ppl had a great day.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Hey Court sweetie. I know alll too well about that girl. Don’t worry about it. When ya hotta handle ya biz.. ya gotta handle ya biz. I was so sleep deprived and sleep walking from working my tush off way too much. Smh.. ya do what ya gotta do Homey!

Ps, mi beautiful suh mi did affi ansa! Lolololol

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Try get more rest Court. I hate the lethargic feeling…

As for eating in your dream, Obara also said that nothing is written in stone and you have to look at the bigger picture like why, what were you doing… blah blah blah.. so don’t panic.

Courtney
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Lol I expect nothing less from you hunnie. Been feeling really tired. Lately and I had a dream last night and I ate some cooked lamb I was so disturbed I don’t eat red meat and obara says it’s never good to eat in dreams

Cami
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Cami

Hey NuNu and Yazzy.

NuNu
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NuNu

Howdy Yazzy , Cami!

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Happy weekend sis! I hope your trip is going well.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Hey boo. Happy weekend

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Mi hope a nuh one neda powa outage unuh have inna di big big weekend ya!

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Yw, do you believe our internal power, which comes from our nature, as you stated, can be manipulated and influenced thru energy??

Yw
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Yes. I believe that our nature (which comes from the creator, i.e the Universal Consciousness) IS energy. As Obara always says, thoughts carry energy; word, sound, power…Our nature can be harnessed via meditation – which may involve introspection….I hope that I did not completely miss what you were asking. If I did please clarify for me…

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Thanks Yw! You didn’t miss it at all. It was spot on.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

“Our nature is who we are at the foundation. It is the seed in which we come from”

Yw, I really loved your take on that but I also believe that our nurture has influence over our nature, at times, therefore, I believe our natures can be altered/changed.

If our nurture was/is positively aligned with our nature then I think we are good but what if our nurture has been negatively aligned with our nature then cant our nature be corrupted??

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Ty, that one was dope! That’s gonna forever stick with me!

Yw
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Yazzy Superstar!!
“…cant our nature be corrupted??…”…………. Curious question…..I think our nature is our nature but we have to cope with the environment we are in….No matter how “good” you are, if you are in a “bad” environment, with “bad” people doing “bad” things to you you have to try to cope. This, to me, is where choice comes in…What will you choose to do? Try to live up to your “good” (which will be immensely difficult) or adjust (corrupt) you nature to survive (which will be a much easier path)?

Cami
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Cami

Yazzy, absolutely bad breed is born naturally, no matter how you coax good it won’t tek.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Cami some baby can get good milk but jus bawn bad if a dat a dem nachuu (nature) … tek for instance Clap Crotch Doreen. Marie raised her very well… she just was a bad seed a naachuu. ..

But I do agree with you that ppl use their power of authority to break the spirits of beings…

Cami
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Cami

The bad milk given to the baby may have manifested something different than if the baby was getting good milk.

So, if the baby was given bad treatment/nurture then the baby may have adapted in order to survive and may become compassionate in later life or malevolent. But the person who constantly feed the baby bad milk use their POWER OF AUTHORITY to produce the outcome of the being.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Cami, those were my thoughts as well that nurture can corrupt nature and I like your milk analogy buy now thay I’ve also taken into account both Yw and Ty’s perspectives… let’s go back to your milk analogy for a bit…

If a baby is fed bad milk… it hasn’t corrupts the digestive system of the baby but if that said baby’s will is to survive, the energy manifests within that baby and it can be one of the most healthiest babies, in spite of its unfortunate nutritional diet. If it’s that baby’s will to survive, it can force it’s body, thru the mind, to withstand it’s environment….

Yw
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Well that is the “nurture”. Is jus’ dat the nurture (or experience) not good or positive. If you grow up around people betraying you, it will be difficult to trust because we are human. So, we can let our experience (nurture) mold us OR *if our nature is to seek honesty* we can try to trust…

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Yw, I LOVE you’re response. So it’s not the nature that has been corrupted but rather the environment of the nature?

Cami
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Cami

I would put it that is the nurture that is the source that corrupt ones nature. Because nurture is like milk for argument sake. If the milk good then you get the proper nourishment, if the milk bad you going to get whatever ailment that bad milk does to the body.

Yw
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Every day, a dibby dibby sound bwoy(s)/gal(s) ah go try test. Is a part of the challenge to test our resolve and conviction in whichever path we choose.
When you have conviction in what you believe, then it solidifies into a firm foundation. That comes out in will – Most times when people run into a brick wall, den stop before they crash into it BOOM!!

Ty
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Sometimes the “bad” people try you…and to stand your ground you have to fight back…

Other times your ” good ” nature shine through and makes the ” bad ” people adjust themselves to align more with you…

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Good night Obara. Good night Yw thanks so much for this amazing post as always. Good night all sweeties here! Happy weekend!

Yw
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Thank you Yazsters!!

NuNu
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NuNu

A quick good evening to you all, I’m just trying to read and catch up

Yw
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Have to step out for a bit but will try to come back later…

Ty
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Watch mi people dem….only Jcans

http://youtu.be/_rHOEcSpK_c

Ty
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Feel better Mth…be safe…

MTH
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Be good/safe. Checking out for now.

Yw
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Tek care, Mth-ardi.

MTH
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Yes, Ty I agree.Only thing Portia & Peter interested in passing IMF tests. A mussi yesterday news read sey POrtia a guh head the national clean-up. Not a word bout the devastation (real & imagined) that the people are facing. No panadol for pains. If you take Cataflam it can lead to death.

Cami
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Cami

You not even hear she going to take stock of the hospital situations or supplies….nothing nice to day about this woMAN, lolol

Ty
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Yet still Portia get top of the line breast cancer care in Florida…

See the fat minister Roger Clark come to Florida for him care and died… Jcan hospitals do not see them…

Ty
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Never voted in ja, I left before I could…but Portia is a sick woman

Cami
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Cami

The next round me a vote and is to see her paddle off into political oblivion.

Ty
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Lol…

You what sickens me there could have been more control and response to the Chikv….in ja we love. Import….since the healthcare infrastructure is in shambles….why not import large amounts or panadol or Tylenol and give out for free or cheap to people showing early signs….

Instead they lie and say is only 30 cases…

MTH
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The next item:-

JASON Forbes seemingly foresaw his death while lying on the floor of the Spanish Town Hospital Tuesday night, complaining about a pain in his stomach and pleading for assistance from health care workers.

When his name was eventually called on Wednesday morning and a security guard lifted him from the floor onto a wheelchair, he was dead.

“Mi belly ah hurt mi, unnu help mi nuh, unnu a guh mek mi dead,” Forbes, the father of a 13-year-old daughter, pleaded on Tuesday night, according to his sister Carmen Gunn.

His 76-year-old mother, who spent the night at the Spanish Town Hospital with Forbes waiting for him to be attended to, also tried to get some assistance for him, but was repeatedly told to sit down.

Gunn told the Jamaica Observer yesterday that, after getting to the hospital, some time after 7:00 pm, her mother was told to get Forbes registered, which she did. Gunn said that after her mother registered Forbes they sent her back out with him.

But he kept on crying, and her mother, who had suffered a stroke, said: “‘Listen, I have a stroke and my son is out there dying with his stomach, somebody need to tend to him’,” Gunn said.

“The lady who was at the desk said to her, ‘Mother, go and sit down; many persons are here’.

“So my mother turn to her and said, ‘Listen, many out here, but none dying. My son is dying’,” the obviously distraught sister told the Observer.

On Tuesday he complained about feeling a pain in his stomach and was taken to the hospital that evening. Gunn said that her mother was there with her brother, who was lying on a towel on the hospital’s floor because there was no bed or chair available, until about 9:10 yesterday morning when his name was called.

“When dem call him there was no porter there… that’s when the security guard ah push him guh inside, and that’s when him drop out of the wheelchair,” Gunn said, breaking down in tears. “Him just go down on his knee and the security find out seh him dead by the doctor dem come.”

“The hospital has not said anything more than tell my mother if she knows that her son died, and my mother said, ‘yes, mi know seh unnu did a guh sit down there and mek mi pickney dead out deh pon di hospital floor’,” said Gunn.

She told the Observer that an autopsy is going to be done, but insisted that had her brother been attended to, instead of neglected, his life could’ve been saved.

“Him distinctly tell dem seh him a guh dead, him tell dem and dem mek mi brother sit down there and dead,” added Gunn, unable to hold back tears. “It’s not like he was at home and we know him feeling the pain and he died at home. We took him to the hospital, right at the place where you feel seh him life will be saved, right there. We felt that is there is the perfect place, but it wasn’t.”

“If mi brother did dead at home, mi woulda feel better,” said Gunn. “But guess what, dem seh poor a crime, if poor a nuh crime, thief is not a crime, member mi tell yuh. Because if we never did poor my brother woulda guh a Andrews or somewhere and him life would have been spared. But because wi poor, a suh it stay.” Gunn is now worried about her mother, who suffered a stroke two years ago and “is not doing too well”.

“The little boy lay down pon the towel on the hospital floor, him cry, him seh ‘unnu help mi’ and no one,” recalled Gunn. “Until that is the result — death.”

Up to press time, the Jamaica Observer was still awaiting a response from the South East Regional Health Authority — the health ministry’s statutory body which has oversight responsibility for the Spanish Town Hospital, as well as other health facilities in St Catherine, St Thomas, Kingston, and St Andrew.

MTH
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Here is a clip of the story of the 14 yro that died at Spanish Town Hospital:-

A 14-year-old St Jago High School student died at the Spanish Town Hospital on Wednesday from what his father said were complications triggered by the chikungunya virus.

The death of Azee Baker plunged the school community into gloom yesterday and raised more concern about the wait period at the hospital, as the Jamaica Observer was told that pleas for help by the boy’s father, Abraham Baker, were ignored for some time until the boy collapsed.

“His father was calling out for help but nobody came to help,” a hospital employee told the Observer last night. “Is after the boy collapsed that they came to help him. By then it was too late.”

Abraham Baker said his son started exhibiting signs of illness on Wednesday, September 24, but managed to go to school up to Friday, September 26.

On Monday, September 29, he took Azee, his only child, to the hospital where he was seen and released with a prescription for Panadol. However, on Wednesday, October 1, the father had to take his son back to the hospital.

“Him say to mi, ‘Daddy, mi cyaan breathe’, and mi bring him back to the hospital,” Baker said. “The last thing he said to me was ‘Daddy, mi waah vomit’, and him vomit and then he said ‘Daddy, mi a run outa breath’.”

“Mi deh right behind the screen a hol’ him foot and dem pump breath inna him and him nuh come back,” the grieving father said, breaking down into tears.

Baker told the Observer that, in addition to the diagnosis of the chikungunya virus, they also found out that young Azee had a heart problem only a day before his passing and that could have been a contributing factor.

Ty
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Very sad case …. This has been going on for years…problem is that we hold no leaders accountable….

MTH
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A suh dem gwan dung a Africa to Teach?

MTH
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TY one lady adamant sey she carry smaddy guh a doctor an shi ova hear doctors a talk sey Ebola dey yah.

Ty
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Mth it IS there

MTH
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YW a yaad yu dey? Onlyy dung a yaad ‘power’ guh wey suh.

Cami
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Cami

Wrong! It happens quite often here in the states because the grids get overloaded (just not for too long). If you compare a JPS bill to FPL you would be very glad for JPS. I try living near a hospital for the power grid must go back on before anywhere else after a hurricane.

MTH
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TY ef dem hangle Chick-V suh poorly, how dem a guh deal wid Ebola.

Ty
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You notice how Portia mum about chikv and Ebola…lol…she not there…she chilling on Miami beach…she have a rass million pent house and never have a job yet…

Cami
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Cami

****empty cause i don’t even want to start on her this night here***

Yw
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Greetings Obara Meji, ES fambo, peepers and crew. Sorry to just come forward but POWER did cut off at mi yard…heehee…

Cami
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Cami

heeeee, Ty cut the power, lolollllll

Yw
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No comment, Camisita..Heehee

Ty
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Grung…

MTH
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Teach, is a mixture of stress and I need a good drink and I will be fine.

MTH
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Thanks Ty.

Mek mi tell unno dis, di ppl dem dung yah tense like wow. Ppl a sey Ebola dey yah and others a worry ova how ppl a guh wey fiThanksgiving and mightbring back Ebola.

Cami
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Cami

All that…Thanksgiving…what that have to do wid Jamaica? All halloween?

Me say…if…look here Thanksgiving day wasn’t a thankful day and if OBEAH can’t get nu respeck then holloween nu fi mention a Jamaica!

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Mi convinced seh Cami and Ty a madd! Lolololol

Ty
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Lol…

Is true thousands of our fellow Jcans are suffering with chikv and no one is held accountable….quite a few high school kids have died and nothing come out of it…

Today we in a store being helped by a Jcan who told us his brother had it and had to scoot on his butte because him could not walk…

Cami
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Cami

Ty, it would be funny to have spoil eggs save up long before election and claat them wid it, just the smell from themselves would turn them off from running and people would be easily identify the “stinking politician” lolol

Ty
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Dat is why I cannot fully respect gunmen a ja…because dem love terrorize and kill innocent people and dem life no better for it…when instead if they killed and weed out the inept leaders, their lives would be better…

Ty
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Grung… I would to see it…

Cami
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Cami

lolol…I hear some big gray tone men and women talk politics, and I just shake me head. It’s because of their ignorance and die hard attitude to party we keep having issues. Some fi go a rally and die hard when them a spout them nonsense.

Ty
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Lol…

U know what kills me…an entertainer goes on stage and flop, and we stone dem cause we want we money’s worth….these politician rob we left right and center and tell us crap…and they revere them…

Yw
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Is better den go ah party an’ die hard, dan be party die hards..

Ty
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Boom …. I like your reasoning Cami…

Cami
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Cami

Yw, mention the power of money, but we fellow countrymen are under the power of sheggry…I can’t even blame colonialism fi de production of today’s blind fools; that would be for the blind, fool fool elders who are party diehards.

Ty
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It is there Mth…that is why the doctors talking out…

MTH
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Teach, there is also the economic/medical power. Two straight days we have seen in the paper how ppl were at Spanish Town Hospital for over 12 hours in each instance an a when dem dead, smaddy look fi dem.

Nurse/Doctors now become so powerful, they choose who lives and who dies. Teach yu haffi guh sen dung2 panadol suh dass mi nuh haffi guh ova Spanish Town guh siddung fi ova 12 hours an nuhget nuh attention. LOL

Ty
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Mth…they are under staffed…they do not get pay…most people do not work for free…we have to hold our leaders accountable….

My grandfather was taken there for an infection, where he had hallucinations and they used ropes for animals and tied him to the bed…this was at Spanish town hospital…it is sad but true…when I see people from either party going around hugging politicians and wearing party colors wid dem teet skin like dog, I shake my head….

NONE of the politicians get care in Ja…why do the taxpayers pay for oversees care for them…

Cami
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Cami

I want to see the day no one go to these rallies much less go out go vote.

MTH
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Teach, mi dey yah a gwan panka-panka. Head a hurt mi.

Yw
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Pardi!! I is are hope you feel bettar…Maybe likkle laugh will help yu head ache. Feel better, though…

Ty
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Mth, I fasted today and prayed for you and your family….

I prayed for everyone here…May God be with us all…

Cami
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Cami

Ase, Ty..Thanks.

MTH
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Big up Teach…

MTH
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I know YW’s intent was to look at power and it’s implication on spirituality, however I just want to look at this in the form of dominace.

Cami mentioned it earlier as it was discussed in the Book Club last night. I have heard of situations where one person has ‘power’ over the other. Especially when one has just migrated and the other is solely dependent on the other. New country, unfamilar situations etc. at times one can become a slave to the other just to get their papers. People have to balance power with humanity and humility.

Yw
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Power-dominance-feeling of superiority-dengration of others-no consequence from that behavior-loss of humanity-lack of empathy-evolution/de-evolution into a different species…..thought process and possible track of thought.

Ty
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Perfect definition of the melanin deficient groups…

Cami
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Cami

Here you have the combination of Influential and persuasion powerS.

MTH
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TEach, you have Dons that are looked on as very powerful. Some command respect, as they operate as Robin Hoods. Theylook out for their people. Then on the other hand, you have some dons that abuse people. They drive fear into the people. They send for the young girls and either they themselves or their cronies have sex with these often times very frightened girls.

I dont remember which area it was but some don came up with the ‘idea’ that no school child should be on the streets after 8pm. If a child was seen on the road, the child would be flogged and I think they would go to the parents. So even in unsavory acts, you can have positive outcomes.

Cami
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Cami

Power of persuasion.

MTH
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I think power can bring withit, fear, dominace, greed jealousy. Also power can bring with it love, admiration, respect etc.

MTH
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Power is like a two edged sword in my opinion. On one side, you have power which can be used for the greater good of others/a country/a nation. Likewise power can be used for self-satisifaction/self-gratification.

A politician can use his/her power to get schools and other infrastructure in place. Same politian can use his/her power to get law pass that can benefit themselves (PJ Patterson passed into law, an act that states that no matter how long or short a Prime Minster serves he will be guarantee a hefty pension. While the population is largely starving.

Shaggy had influence and with that came some amount of power. He used that power to get some friends to do a charity show that benefits the Children Hospital.

Cami
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Cami

Hey MTH…What you describe is influential power (1 of 5 in ethics).

Ty
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May God continue to bless Shaggy…Bustamante Hospital is the only pediatric hospital in the English speaking carribbean…I was treated there as a child…I give whole heartedly to his charity…

pj is another story…lives in Barbados, collecting a huge sum…bitter because Manley sr promised him post and placed his unqualified son above him…

Cami
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Cami

“I still believe that our conscience can function and play a role on how we choose to exert our power…”

Hence, the difference of the two individuals you wrote about.

Cami
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Cami

What? Power failure? lol…where are you bloggers? all the mod missing to ‘fall e tee’.

Yw
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Power failure…heehee..HAHAHA….ahhh…mmmm….sorry

Cami
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Cami

“Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely” Lord Acton.

Yw, you are correct in stating that power is internal and external and that influence is the same as acceptance and rejection of said power.

Cami
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Cami

Good afternoon everyone. First I must apologize to Lalibella, for not being able to continue with last night book club. Got caught up in doing a favor.

New Day: Yw, “electrifying post” and a great transition to the week.

Yw
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Cami!! Yuh sey “electrifying” and mi sey, power cut off at mi yard..teehee

toy7318
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Good morning Obara, charles, and Yw. I know everyone will be here soon Morning to all of you. Power to me is a word that has so much emphasis… Power I feel overtime changes people because with power comes Jealousy and hate and I feel humans begins love everything that comes with Power I think it is natural reaction for humans to see how far they can make people bend backwards. I don’t think we can change are nature. No if someone is selfish they are just that selfish. Even though you here people say people can change. I believe people change because deep down inside they were really that way to begin with, but life altered them a bit, so they put a defence mechanism. I don’t think evil, nasty, selfish people can change. I will be back later. Yw good post

Yw
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Thank you, Toy. Muta sey, ah ting have to be in yu before yu can do it. That means yu have to be capable of doing something to do it.

Ty
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I feel that retrospection, fasting, prayers, and meditation along with making conscious actions and effort can change bad traits and behaviors…

Cami
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Cami

Morning Toy, I always thought power was just about dominance, but then I later found out that it isn’t singular.

Yes, Yw, we can change our nature by nurturing our spirit to adapt to something new.

charles206
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To me, power for itself proves nothing. It’s an empty exercise of man’s will over another’s. Not something of virtue. Without love power places man closer to animals.

Yw
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Hail up Charles. In my opinion it is what we consider power and how we use it. They say that absolute power corrupts because most people would tend to exert their dominance on others. I believe that comes from a feeling of superiority that comes from the idea of possessing power.
In the animal kingdom, power (used as dominance) is a natural part of the society but if we are to say that we, as humans, are civilized, then what role does dominance have? For sentient beings, who is to “govern” us and more importantly in what direction are they governing us towards? Curious, curious….

Ty
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I still believe that our conscience can function and play a role on how we choose to exert our power…

Cami
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Cami

Charles, I’ll see your love and up it with conscience and fairness, in order for power to be effective. I believe love can also corrupt power if the love is of ones self and for a selective few then it corrupts.

Ty
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I riding a 100% with you Cami…

charles206
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Cami, I agree with you.

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