August 19, 2014 Obara Meji 202Comment

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Good day everyone, Here is the part two of yesterdays post. Please read as this topic is very important to our awakening, and to the better understanding of the role our ancestors plays in our lives and for our generations to come. We must remember where we are from, and without those who have gone on ahead how can we move further, how do we learn of things unknown to us, how do we live? They ought to be honored, we must never forget them!

Ancestors with Issues

Most people think too much in terms of black and white. In their limited world view a person is either evil or good with nothing in between. But that is not how nature operates. Our ancestors are seldom evil, but they can be negative, just like living people. Another erroneous notion is that family members who pass over to the world of spirit automatically become “angels” and all their character flaws, negative thinking and spitefulness are instantly erased just by them becoming spirits. Others assume that ancestors automatically become wise, just by passing over to the realm of spirit. Nothing could be further from the truth. As I mentioned in my Middle World article which deals with the astral realm, a spiteful person will be a spiteful spirit and a goodhearted person will be a goodhearted spirit. A human being with lots of issues will be a spirit with lots of issues. It is as simple as that!Basically we can divide our ancestry in two groups: the negative and positive ancestors. Let’s discuss the negative ancestors first. They are unlikely to be evil, in fact they might have been wonderful people, but they are negative for you, meaning that they are obstructing you in some way, hindering you from moving forward in your life and sabotaging your plans for the future you want to create. This is often due to the ancestors imposing their world view, ambitions and religious conditioning on you! For example, if you have decided to take up the study ofmagick or Wicca, and among your ancestors were some very devout and probably narrow-minded Christians, they may now put all kinds of stumbling blocks in your way. For instance, after your ritual to get a job you may find that you have a lot of bad luck, and you start wondering whether or not this whole “magick business” may be evil and “God” is punishing you for it etc. Even if you don’t believe that magick is evil, if the problem persists you are likely to give it up because it doesn’t work for you. Well, it doesn’t work for you simply because your ancestors won’t let you do it, not because the magick isn’t working!Or you may be an artist and want to earn your living by painting but your ancestors think that artists are lazy louts and obstruct you, so you never have any success. To sum it up: negative ancestors are those who are hindering and obstructing you, even if those were the spirits of your beloved grandmother or grandfather. As a rule, negative ancestors have to be dealt with before we can actually work with our positive ancestors. For all practical purposes even ancestors who were good people, and may have your welfare in mind, but are imposing their views and ideas on you, are considered to be negative ancestors. Always keep in mind, they are not evil, they are not out to get you, but they have an agenda and you have free will, which includes permanently dismissing them, which you can learn in my Wisdom of the Ancestors Workshop or by online tuition via voice chat, which makes it possible for your to learn the method, no matter where you live.Now to the positive ancestors. These are the ones that are willing to help you according to how you wish to live your life. They can protect you spiritually and physically from harm. They can open many doors for you, whether you need to get a new job, improve your financial situation or find the perfect partner. Some of your spiritual ancestors can even become your guides and take your spirituality to a higher level. Ancestors can accomplish many things you could not, simply because they are in the Otherworld which gives them access to knowledge that you might not have access to and because they are free from the limitations of the physical body, of time and space.

You will find that your ancestors are usually perfectly willing to help — if you acknowledge them and give them what they need. To help you they need regular feeding. There are lots of rules and regulations on how and what to feed the ancestors. Generally they like alcoholic beverages. As to food, they may have certain preferences but you don’t have to give them anything you don’t feel good about. As a vegetarian I won’t serve meat to my ancestors, even though some of them would like that. I found other foods that please them. You can “train” your ancestors to accept food which is okay with your lifestyle and affordable for you. In the end is better to give them a little food even if it is not their favourite than to leave them hungry. And remember, leaving your ancestors hungry means they cannot act on your behalf, which is likely to result in problems for you, such as poverty and other troubles.

According to voodoo tradition (the healing tradition of voodoo, not sorcery!) it is very important to feed your ancestors, because if you don’t, you will remain in poverty! So if money is always a problem, maybe you should consider attending to your ancestors! Obviously you cannot begin feeding your positive ancestors until you have got rid of your negative ancestors or you would be feeding the negatives too which could make things worse for you. Performing ancestral rituals is actually quite easy but you should be taught by somebody who is experienced with ancestral rituals and has learned this within a proper tradition, such as voodoo. Once the negative ancestors have been dealt with, and you have made contact with your positive ancestors it makes sense to construct an ancestral shrine in your house, so that your ancestors will have a place in your home where they can reside, and a doorway to your life.

Ancestral Patterns and Healing

Quite often you will notice that there is a certain pattern in your family. Maybe of great financial losses or of violent death, of unhappy relationships, or problems with a particular element such as water or fire, etc. The pattern can be so obvious that even people without spiritual training notice it and draw the conclusion that there is a “curse” on their family or on them. Though ancestral curses are common, this is not the only possible cause of the problem. Sometimes ancestors carry shame and pass this on through many generations and so we effectively curse ourselves. A competent shaman can release such curses, find the root of the ancestral patterns and help the ancestors involved to let go of their guilt and shame so that they and all subsequent generations may be healed. I have had some spectacular successes with ancestral healing. Here is one example:Once, when I treated a lady who had a persistent back problem I intuitively knew it was due to an energy of shame held in the spine. We tried to locate the source of shame together but it was beyond her conscious knowledge or memory. So I journeyed for her. It turned out that one of her ancestors had been raped and then had cursed the rapist and all his descendants. As the ancestor became pregnant from this encounter she cursed her own line as well. It was a bit tricky unraveling this one, but I found a way to circumvent the curse and lift it from her ancestral line. Immediately after the journey my client’s back problem disappeared and hasn’t come back so far, to my knowledge. She told me she had that problem for years! Also, when I recounted the journey my client confirmed several patterns in her family that fit with what I had learned.

The Problem of Earthbound Spirits

Due to all the misinformation about what happens prior to and during death many souls become earthbound. This is getting so bad that we can almost talk about an “overpopulation problem” on the astral! Of course there is no space problem on the astral, which after all is a realm of energy, not matter, but we are having a build up of negativity due to so many earthbound spirits most of whom are not happy in this temporary realm. All earthbound spirits need to draw energy from living beings (mostly humans, but they can draw it from your pets also) to avoid the breaking up of their astral bodies and the so called second death. In effect earthbound spirits are vampires. Therefore it is definitely not healthy to live in a house where earthbound spirits constantly hang around!A true shaman knows how to deal with earthbound spirits and can help them to pass over to where they belong. This kind of work is calledpsychopomp work and requires advanced skills, as well as sensitivity. When working with our own ancestry we can help those who wish to move on permanently to do so. The remaining good ancestors will not drain you. They will come at feeding time and then go about their business of helping you sort your life out. Those that are truly earthbound souls need help though. This happened in my family as well. In fact I had to help two earthbound family members after death. One of them was my grandmother who died in 1993.When my grandmother died I was devastated. I comforted myself with the thought that her suffering was over and that she would be going to heaven or some wonderful region in the afterlife because she had been a very good human being, always helping others selflessly to the point where she gave herself up completely. Looking back I think that was part of her problem. For over a year I did not dream of her at all, which surprised me. I had been sure that she would appear to me in dreaming, after all we had been close and I always have magickaldreams. I didn’t know then that ancestors usually spend one year and a day in the Underworld, before they can freely travel around on the astral. After about a year I had several disturbing dreams of her.In the most horrible one of those dreams she stood with me beside a big cornfield. All the corn in the field, though fully grown was twisted, black and dried out. She looked at me beseechingly and said, “this is my life. Can you make it right?” I just looked at her in total shock and said, “grandma, nobody can make this right any more!” I woke up feeling very disturbed. For weeks afterwards I was going over the dream in my mind unable to come up with a solution or any plan to help my grandmother. I knew how to journey then, but this was something new that I had never come across before and so I was at a loss what to do. Good day everyone, here is part two of yesterdays post. Please read, as this topic is very important to our awakening to Our awakening and to the better understanding of the roles our ancestors plays in our life and for our future generations. We must remember where we are from, to who we are connected to and honor them. Have no fear of what they did while they lived, or who they were while on earth if indeed some were bad and wicked, they may have come to play a role which society needed in which to learn or grow from, the line between good and bad, is very thin. Hitler while he live was a terror to the Jew, but his actions  and why is left between he and his creator.

As usual, solutions and ideas come to me once I have referred the problem to my subconscious mind. And so it was that by “coincidence”  when working on a time travel project whilst searching for answers about what happened to my grandpa in World War II, I stumbled over the answer. I finally managed to locate and visit my grandmother in the spirit realm. She was in the Underworld, in a place which was actually very beautiful and serene (I would have loved it) but my grandmother felt lonely and unhappy there. It was not easy getting her out of there, I had to try various things until I found a way to move her on to a place she liked. After that I didn’t hear or dream of her for several years and I felt she was at peace. I think it was in 2009 that I had one glorious dream of her, in which she appeared to me, surrounded by a golden light. We talked in that dream and I felt a wonderful feeling of love between us. Now I know for sure that my grandmother is happy in the afterlife!

Is Ancestral Work Evil?

Absolutely not! Quite the contrary, I think it is quite negligent and abusive not to take care of one’s ancestors. We are buying them expensive coffins, for what? It would be better to do something for their immortal spirits than for the decaying bodies. The Egyptians had their Book of the Dead and performed rites for the passing and for a happy afterlife of the dead. The Tibetans also have a Book of the Dead. All cultures, including Celtic and Germanic tribes had special rites for the dead. This topic has been declared a taboo and as evil by mainstream religion, because there is power in working with the ancestors. And power has forever been suppressed. For if we, all of mankind, realised our real power we could break free from the enslavement we have been under for thousands of years and finally create a life of beauty and peace on this planet, a life of plenty and prosperity for everyone, not just for the elite! If we all, or a good number of us, found our power, it would make an end to all control and manipulation of the powers-that-be — permanently!In this context I am going to write an article about the witch hunt and what it really was about. Truly, the witch hunt was all about control and the oppression of power and to keep mankind in servitude. Remember this: those who shout the loudest that working with spirits is evil are the very ones who are doing it themselves and really using it for evil. Have you ever noticed that the Pope is using an upside-down cross on his throne and in many decorations? Isn’t that the same upside-down cross that Satanists use? Did you know that the words on his mitre, which translated mean the “Vicar of Christ” add up to 666 in numerology? Isn’t 666 supposedly the number of the beast? Did you know that 666 is also hidden on every bar code? Church and politics always go hand in hand. They are two systems of oppression that covertly work together. In the end it is all about power. The powers-that-be want to have all of it and they don’t want you or anybody else to have any of it. And if you truly treasure freedom, then you must do everything to get your full power now and then use it for good — or against evil, which is the same thing. Don’t postpone getting your power until next year. It will soon be over for mankind, unless we are acting now to empower ourselves and reclaim our world!

Conditioning to Keep You Down

So get this whole idea of good and evil out of your head. It is mainly manipulation by mainstream religion to keep you powerless and ignorant. Yes, true evil exists, and when you see it you will know it without doubt. You do not need any authority to tell you what evil is. Your conscience, your heart, your soul, your Higher Self, your intuition will tell you clearly enough. It is the conditioning of the mind that gets in the way and makes people confused. The brain getting in the way of the heart is the problem of our society. We have been taught to think with the limited rigid instrument of our left brain, our rational mind, discounting intuition and the voice of the soul as silly or unscientific. Removing this conditioning is a great part of shamanic groundwork. You can’t go far in shamanism or in any spiritual tradition until you have freed yourself from all false conditioning! People get so attached to their conditioning, it is like a slave getting attached to his chains! This conditioning is not a good thing, it is a prison for your mind and spirit and prevents real growth. If the Goddess had wanted you to have this conditioning it would have been there from birth. But you were born free and endowed with free will — and a mind capable of thinking for yourself, I would like to add! All conditioning was placed upon you to bind you, to make you believe that you are the physical body, that material reality is the only reality there is, etc. — in short to make you into a better slave! It is only when all conditioning is removed that one can see clearly. Until you have completely de-conditioned yourself, you may still fear working with the ancestors, or spirits or doing magick, etc. All I can do is assure you, as one who has experienced Oneness with All-That-Is, that working with your ancestors is definitely not evil. It is in fact natural, as death is a natural progression of life. Death is nothing but a door to another life. So drop the fear and be open to the mystery of life and death!

Benefits of Ancestral Work

Working with one’s ancestors really is good and desirable. It is mutually beneficial both for you and your ancestors. It doesn’t harm another being, and it certainly isn’t a sin. It establishes a strong cohesion in the family and a bond of love that goes beyond death. It reconnects you with your ancestral roots and true cultural tradition — not the couch potato – TV addict – Mindless Lemming mentality that is being promoted by the powers-that-be. Our ancestors, actually had values, such as hospitality to guests, courage, honouring one’s word, loyalty, discipline, industriousness, self-reliance and love of freedom. When I think of what the ancient tribes of Germany were like for example, their sacred traditions, and what the German nation has become today I could sit down and cry. We have become a nation of sissies, and few have any honour and noble values. I really advise you to research the ancient Pagan traditions of your own people. You will find much beauty there, and much we can learn from. I feel we all need to reconnect to the Wisdom of our Ancestors, be it for empowerment, for knowledge, for protection or even for values.What could possibly be evil about working with the ancestors? I believe if we all took better care of our ancestors and established a good relationship with them we would be a lot healthier, more prosperous and more balanced. During my five years in Hong Kong I was honoured to take part in ancestral rituals of my (now ex) partner’s family. It was an incredible experience. Most people in Hong Kong have ancestral shrines in their homes, where they regularly burn incense and make offerings. Once a year the whole family gets together and makes offerings to the ancestors. Afterwards they all feast at the burial place, not far from the urns with the bones and ashes. Initially I had some apprehension about this but I allowed myself to go with the flow and found that the ceremony actually felt very sacred, beautiful and appropriate. I could also feel that all family members who took part felt a great satisfaction, a sense of having done their duty to their ancestors. They were convinced that now their ancestors would protect them and look after them for another year. Even the children enjoyed this day without any prejudice.And last but not least, I feel it is very healing for the soul to know that the ones that you have loved and who have passed on aren’t lost forever but that they keep on watching over you. And isn’t it nice to think that when you one day pass over your descendants will keep on thinking of you with love regularly, sending you their blessings and even “feed” you in the afterlife? To me this seems the most natural thing to do! And now my friends I am closing, because I have not fed my ancestors for a week and I better attend to them now! If you want to start this rewarding practice too, come and join me at my ancestral workshop or visit my online tuition page where you can book an individual session to learn ancestral work from me via online voice chat!
May you all benefit from the Wisdom and Protection of the Ancestors!
The source of this post is sacredserpent.net
 
Bí inú ṣe kéré tó, ó fi ààyè gba ọmọ. / As small as the belly is, it has room for the baby (or the foetus). [No impossibility.]

All religions are valid as long as it teaches peace and love…..Obara Meji!

There are no disappointments in life, only lessons learned…..Obara Meji!

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Allister Edward Bowen
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Inspirational, educational, non-judgemental, free from religeous and racial biases and simply expressed to and for me as a 70Yr old christian-based afro-west indian And first time readed who has spent time in countries such as England, Scotland, Wales, Germany, China, Norway, Manilla and Canada.
As a grand-father and mature student of life I am most entreaged!
Continued Blessings
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Ty
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So glad to have you with us…please share of your knowledge and stories of your travels…we would love to hear…

MTH
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Teach, Cami, Ty, Nunu, Yazzy, Bubblez mi caan believe a suh unno miss mi…Lawks mi feel good sah…

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M come, M come!!! <3 Obara seh it ina yu Momma come voice looool Yazzy a empty clip n dj, TY a get cold sweat looool wi happy like pitni pon holiday 😀 😀

Ty
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Cold sweat wash me…a glad you back honey…we worry when we nuh see or hear from you…

Yazzy
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Fi real man Ty! A fam we seh eenuh! Big man ting!

MTH
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Isese Lagba…Mi neva chune in last night but mi inna mi white, unno nuh si mi spirit wid unno…

What a keep a love for little me…Hhehehehehe!!!! Mi naah lie, mi neva know sey a suh unno love mi….

Unno neva read one post wey mi did sey mi come off a probation and a crazy wuk, di boss a sen on….Mi dey yah mi fambily…Mi naah guh nuh wey…

Yesterday I had to call upon the ancestors, to watch over Little M for a portion of the day…LOVE, LIGHT, MANNERS & RESPECT….

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Isese Lagba Gbobo Wa MTH!!!!!!!

((((((Big hugs))))))) yuh nuh see how Obara decide seh she caah tek it nuh more di way it bun har se we caah see yuh… and wi miss yuh bad… teach decide she nah ole har mout a grung and chat! She a loud yuh up mek yuh know seh a so wi kip di ring real! Wi miss yuh and it bun wi and wi nu lib suh a claat! Yuh know bout to!

kiabubblez
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ISESE LAGBE GBABO WA!!! ASEEEEEEE

Obara Ty Yazzy Cami everyone hope yu day is going well….nuh lie miss MTH bad bad. a shi usually greet mi early mawnin wid porridge n love den braps shi jus gwaan…

yu si di 1 Yazzy lol mi come gud gud fi hail n greet up unno. Yazzy shi mek mi figet my manners an kinova loooool Obara my coworkers seh yu luk pretty ina di full white 🙂 Ore Yeye Osun

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Isese Lagba Gbobo Wa Kia Boo!!! Yuh tan de laff!! Yuh see yuh cute face to! 😀 nuh blame mi ooo!!! **covers face**

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Isese Lagba!

May the powers of the Creator continue to protect us all, while the cloak of our ancestors cover us and guide us through this life, as we carry on their name and likeness. Bless all my ancestors that have cloaked me and love and warmth to those who guard me. ASE!

Again Isese Lagba to my fellow Spiritual mates and teacha, Obara Meji.

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Isese Lagba Cami Cam!

ASEEEE!!!!!

Cami
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Isese Lagbo Gbobo wa, Yazzy. Wish you a Great day too.

MTH, me miss entering and yu not here to instruct…hope all is well.

Ty
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Ase!!!

Isese Lagba to all !

Today I pray the the presence of God me lighted within you all. I pray the sick, the earth and all it’s people, for the weary, the tired and lonely…May the love and energy be with us all… I thank my ori for leading me to you all and pray that we trod on this journey together…that our family be united with bonds of love and that we never face devastation as we seek our truth and our path…

Mojuba to all our wonderful Orishas who continue to aide us. ore Yeye Osun, my wonderful sweet mother…

I thank my egungun for their love, patience, guidance, and protection…

Love conquers all!!!

Cami
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Isese Lagba Gbobo wa Ty. Have a bless day.

Yazzy
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Isese Lagba Empress Ty!!

ASEEEE!!!!!

Yazzy
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Isese Lagba our sweet Obara Meji!!
Isese Lagba to alllllll my ESP sweeties!
Isese Lagba to all peeperz…

May our God, Olodumare, grant us continued peace and love. Great Olodumare- he who sees our hearts, we pray our hearts desires are granted unto us. We pray our Oris continue to lead us all into oness. We pray that our spirit guides continue to keep us rooted on our earthly journeys. Mojuba all Orishas! We pray that your embraces are continually felt thru the universe. We pray that our sweet ancestors, who’s blood and love runs within us, will continue to protect us and love us and grant us wisdom and whom will all be made proud in our devotion and love for them. You may have gone on before us but your essences are forever with us! We honor you all! We love you all! We thank you all for your protection and love and light!

Isese Lagba!!!

Tradition is the only way!!!

ASE!!!!!

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This is such an awesome read! I am sorry I am late, but better late then never. I am so happy to acknowledge my ancestors and have my kids be apart of this journey with me. Night everyone/morning to you beautiful souls!

Ty
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Good night everyone, pleasant dreams..

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Yes a queen you are Ms Obara. I read all comments/ every day and I finally made an alter. Dont know if im doing it wrong but ive asked for forgiveness and im re-reading certain posts. I love yall for real.

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Me soon come back. Mommies going to sleep early, so they can deal with their reincarnate charges…good night…lol

Obara, any thing special to eat for Isese day?

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Us women over here are simply the best! Yuh see how wi behave when wi see M&M aka MAN & MIXUP!!??? Yuh see how unuh in ya a light up like peenie wallie!! 😀

IT DOONT LOOK GOOD!!! HAHAHAHA!! 😀

Mi love unuh baddd!

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ESP men are mannerable and responsible so we have to go into ladylike mode round them, but dem give us room not to fake it.

Thank goodness Tw/Yw have a bond that Tw nah watch nu face cause she know we are harmless…a so we should roll as people. But then again, as Yw points out…choice in character can sway the mind.

Big up ALL couples that were truly meant to be BEFORE birth…Ase. A lie me a tell Obara? lol

Cami
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DWLN!!! Me tell yu say me visual and all me see when yu write “buff front” is a line up of unshaven fronts…….lollllllll Yu know me nu hab nu behavior!

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A weh ya seh Obara!! Not even mi pathy pathy hairless yeye lash dem can ole mi back fi da crowning de!!!! A swear! Ase!

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Another fabulous blog, Teach. Bwoy, dis good and evil thing is always interesting to me. I believe that there are many characteristics, traits, etc that make up a personality. That relates to good and bad in that we decide who we want to be and a characteristic or trait (which dictates our behaviour) is good or bad depending on who we choose to be – i.e. the principles we value. Sorry if this is not as clear as I hope…

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Yailmentz Yw!! Large up!

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Greetings Yazsters. I look forward to chatting with you all in di Mananas.

Cami
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Yu clear as water…lol. Insert the being that Obara spoke about that can take over the body, which throws the human self off course.

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Big up, Cam Cam.

Ty
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Me so excited, is as if me deh deh…

Ty
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Music, songs, then dances on my list…Nuff catching up to do…

Ty
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We are so happy and so proud…May God continue to bless him…Ase!!!

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Ase!!! That union is already sealed! Mi love di two a unuh togeda. King and Queen! Mawd! Unuh bossy sah!! 😀 kool nuh!!

Cami
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Full circle fi dem. Obara say she always fely royal…look how far she “return” to live that over? A so it set yes.

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I love your take on that Cami! It was preordained !!!!

Obara Meji
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Choot Cami

Obara Meji
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Ok nite

Obara Meji
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Yazzy ah mumma mi name when mi chicks go missing all inna dog yaws mi guh look fi dem!!

Cami
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Go sleep so you can do the holiday post.

Cami
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Same here. Ase!

Ty
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I found a cool link to some Yoruba phrase…I will share below…unno know we have practice for our trip to Africa and also to honor our ancestry…

http://mylanguages.org/yoruba_phrases.php

NuNu
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Thanks Ty

Yazzy
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Great ideas Ty!

kiabubblez
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Yes i like this site

Cami
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Cool idea, Ty.

Ty
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I definitely believe in reincarnation…I know I have been here before…my kids have been here before…

Yes Yazzy the mommy duties tun up…right now a bare excitement…little ones do not want to sleep…di baby a tell me how him nuh want sleep because him cannot control him dreams…lol…

Today a had a wonderful conversation with my dad…my family is so big and then some family was adopted, some share only a mother, while others share only a father…a bare mix up…lol…

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I guess those of us without kids or have children out of school forget about school…lol. Little reincarnate dutties have onu pon lock! lol. Big up the mothers and daddies (Lalibela)

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Lol Yes Ty he has been here before. All family have the mixup mixup n dem lieeeee isi my family im speaking. I think is shame and dem love too much secret. Thats why we dont know our spirituality as much til later in life. My great granny was not my granny mommy but instead of saying papa have outside child dem make up some elaborate story. Smh lol

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yu zimi Ty all today wi a try figure out is how much babydaddies my great aunty did have… 3 or 4. Shame tree bun right dung

Ty
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Lol..my grandmother who is alive had 12 children wid 5 different men…no c sections…no epidurals…

Ty
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Kiab, my family shame tree bun dung…a bare outside Pinckney..a bare unwed births…my grandmother had my father for a married man…everybody know…lol

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Empress Ty, nu se a wud… wi know how di ting set! Your household sounds very interesting. Poor baby a dream out hell!! Lol how cute. Tell him write it all down…

Ty
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Lol…a sleep him nuh want go sleep…lol

Yazzy
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Hailmentz Darling Ty!! Shout up Yw fi mi deh! Mommy duties tun ova in de??? 😀

Cami
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Hey Kia. Yes Obara, Ty is missing, Where are you ladies? Wonder if MTH friend is doing okay?

Obara Meji
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No just pray to the ancestors and Orishas nigh Cami

NuNu
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Which friend dat Cam? A wha mi miss

Cami
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Nu MTH have the male friend who is sick and she has negative dreams for him?

Cami
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NuNu and Yazzy! Yes, i love observing babies to see that returning spirit. I look to see if them come back wid sense…lol

Seriously, I look to see just how swift the child is in figuring out things and I am always amazed by the things that they do that no one shared with them.

Obara Meji
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Oh caws Domgoma sey him ah Shaman/woman, so him gone ah migh him/ she ah try scatta mi people, dwllllll

NuNu
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Teach wha yuh seh! Domgoa scarce up yuh people dem!

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Obara a c-rus sintin!! Hahahahaha!! A weak!!!!!

MTH!!! “IT DOONT LOOK GOOD!! ((Tony Matterhorn voice))
M, yuh beta guh teck back di buck weh yuh buck di ooman M!!!!
M, nuh mek mi affi sen fi Ty fada “bitch” fi come terrorize di ppl demand fi yuh! IT DOONT LOOK GOOD!!! 😀 😀

Obara, we love you way more! Dem cah mash not a works and tek wi weh from yuh atal!!

kiabubblez
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Wharra?! I musi miss dat comment hmmmmm lol

Obara Meji
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Mi love all ah oonuh it ooda hurt mi fi lose oonuh

Yazzy
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Hahahaha
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Cami, I always notice that after there is a death, there is sure to be a birth in the works.. so I always guh hmmmm like Kia

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So true, all vice-versa. Is who did sing da song de yu throw out up top de? lol

kiabubblez
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Obara Yazzy Nunu Cami Yailings Nuns u see how mi teef u word lol
Hmm i didnt agree with that negative speech either. I was thinking i dont know too many ancestors. so kbowing who n who was negative or positive i wouldnt to know. I just want my ancestors to know i remember them now and will teach the next ginaration . Hoping we will never forget them again. In years to come i want the grands to call my name in honor so i can help them. ♥

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Mi si it yes, lol but a suh mi deh bite people lingo here tuh

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I had a nasty grand uncle so that is one negative right there for me. I’m sure my grandmother deal wid him backside when she got over to the next realm and had the capability to see his deeds.

Even though she love me, she can be a negative by blocking certain so-call friends and men from me.

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Cami, mama ova de a wuk ovatime and a whap dem one by one! Galang gyal… whap dem two by two. .galang gyal.. finga mash nu cry… galang gyal… memba a play wi de play!! 😀

Cheesy much??? Lolol 😀

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Cami the so-call frens granny fi block nuh? di men maybe is a reasin to block shi probably spot on with them.

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Exactly Kia!!

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Same as Ty wid Amh, kids and school and mummy duties

Obara Meji
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Kia something nuh right yuh nuh si sey MTH and TY hardly deh yah now a days, in God mi trust

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Yes maam mi seet dat mi a penny all AMH too

Ty
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No man me deh ya a catch up…school start dis week and a bare things if get ready…so been very busy…love still de hay strong…

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Good night. How many of your regulars are peepers are falling in line with the concept of reincarnation? Hope many.

If the concept is still hard to grasp then a starting point is to observe a new born up to 1 year. Look how that child do things that wasn’t shown/taught to him or her, yet they fall right in line. You may see an image of an ancestor (even those gone recent) in that child if its a relative.

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Yes Cami some kds definitely exibit behaviors that mek u wonder lol hmmmm they act like aunty daisy or uncle will

Obara Meji
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Àṣẹ kia

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Obara everybody gawn leff to read dem assignment maybe?

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Hey Cam

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Correction: strength and resilience**

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I enjoyed journeying with the author on both trips! The ancestral healing with the woman that supposedly carried the shame of her ancestors on her back was a very fascinating story and also very sad!

Can you imagine her ancestor was raped and later cursed the sick piece of **** but what strength and residence she had in deciding to keep the baby but the curse she cursed the ads hole and his descendants also tragically fell upon her womb! WOW!!

I fell in love with the assistance the beautiful grandma received and later found serenity on her new realm feeling lonely in the realm she was before **tear jerker dammit!!** lol

Both journeys were kick ass!!

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Cami Cam, nightie night sweetie! Wah de galang hottaz??

Very interesting points

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Mi did early fi class today eenuh… and after I made my post on part one, Mi immediately see a post for part two and I clicked on it… and it’s like it disappeared and kill me dead all day mi de wait fi do sinting reappear and nothing! I don’t know what happened! I aint even confident how mi end up find dis ya post ya. Lol … I was a hot mess today lol

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Obara thanks for that response. I don’t necessarily agree with everything that was mentioned but I very much appreciative of the authors insights.

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For instance, I don’t necessarily agree with his decision to “permanently dismiss” a “negative” ancestor and not feed them and in the same breath say that “to leave them hungry is to starve them which can lead to poverty and other issues”…..

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Obara, since we have to deal with our negative ancestors before we can tend to the positive ones, should we refrain from setting up altars and feeding them as the author says this may give them more energy and make things worse?? Just like when we are doing cleansing of our home and you tell us that we have to cleanse before we do the “sealing” as to not entrap ourselves with the bad energy.

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Evelin’ fam!

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Oh gosh, evening Nunu boo! Wah de gwaan hottaz?? Mi not even did si di halimentz! Sarry!

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Yazzy oooo!

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Ekale Obara & everyone at first read i thought u wrote this post Obara. While i did enjoy reading it, can u tell us if anything u disagreed with.

Obara Meji
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Hey Cami, Kia , Yazzy Nunu I post the part 2 today and it disappeared I was glad it was saved I has to repost it again!

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Obara, mi know mi neva a mad eenuh. A two time now data happen to mi and mi swear a me a mad. Ok… so u did post and it disappear! Lolol! Tonks fi di confirmation! Happy you were able to save it.

Obara, when I read quite a few of the authors points me a read and me a seh… I know Obara can’t possibly agree with this.. and dat.. and dat… but mi jus de ole mi can a and di a pay attn… either way.. very insightful and all in all the lesson is the importance of honoring ’em! Boom bam bam connect.

I care not to shed too much light pan weh mi never agree wide but rather what I agreed with and respected…

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Obara, how does one know if they have a negative ancestor?? And how do we differentiate between a ancestral shame and ancestral curse within our own family?

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Good questions Yazzy here re reading to ask Obara questions night Courtney

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Kia boo!! Night hottaz! Tonks!

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I do not necessarily agree with everything here in this post, so when you aske of ancestral shame if it of a culture or race of people like how whist treats blacks then I understand buy every individual came to earth for their own purpose what they do with their life is mi fault of ours therefore we should not not bear their shame

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Hey fam!

This was a very informative post! Overwhelming at times but very insightful. Tickled my senses quite a bit but nothing compared to the many head-butts and bitch slaps I got to wake ma ass up… ultimately, It sure did!

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Good Eve to all

I am so grateful for this post. It has been very insightful and goes in depth as to the what why when and how of honoring ones ancestors. I have been told to construct my alter but have yet to do so for some reason. This was definitely enlightening and timely.

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Teach, mi a sort out man…Things should get back to normal by tomorrow…

MTH
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Good after noon everyone…

Teach, respect for this post…I just finished speaking to my dad and it occured to me, why not ask him the name of his dad…He told me his dad’s name, Lambert…I know they called him Baay-yo.. The interesting this is that I knew my dad had a brother that passed and I was honouring him, the only thing, the name I had in my head, was not his name at all. My dad has now told me his name…

I feel good celebrating my ancestors for paving the way that my girls and I now enjoy. We will never take it for granted….

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Good afternoon! So these ‘negative’ ancestors are they considered egbe ? Isn’t it the same way your egbe can deter your life? How do you change that?

Ty
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God is so awesome that while we are here on the earth realm learning and trying to elevate, we are afforded so much help and guidance…

To sum up day one and two of this topics, I walk away knowing that my ancestors offer me guidance, protection, love, healing and their eternal gift of their DNA…I feel treasured to know that little ole me gets all this…I honor, feed, and love my ancestors…I have an even deeper appreciation for my altar, my ancestral meeting place…I am happy to know that I have this beacon to hone in on them, petition to them, vent, share my comings and goings etc…

My grandparents while here did not get to see my children but via my ancestral shrine, I know that they get to share in our lives..such a wonderful feeling…

Grandma, papa, cougar, the might one, sis, mum, Tate…I love you all…I try each day to make you proud…

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Awwwwww Ty I feel ur love for your ancestors. I just learned to honor my ancestors from reading ES and I am loving it. Mommy gave me a whole list of Maternal ancestors today. Had me laughing and oooohing at the stories of them. Sad to say my fathers side I probably wont get in this lifetime but I will honor them as well.

I love you my ancestors from every lifetime <3

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Hey Kia and Ty!

Ty
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We are all blessed kiab. .. We just have to be awake and open…

Ty
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It is such a terrible tragedy…I am still working on undoing these doctrines…I am trusting my ori more…

Astral traveling sound cool, exciting, and healing…

Ty
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The more mi really get fi ” see” about the Catholics…the more me ketch mi fraid…I remember Muta had a nighttime radio program and used to lick out pon di pope and Catholics…wow!!!

Gonna read up about the witch hunts…re reading info with an open mind and delving into the spiritual basis of things is amazing…

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Tired of being a slave to forced religion and sorcery politics…I will not ascribe to either… The power struggle ends here… I will try to find my destiny and life plan with the help of my ancestors…ultimately elevating us both…

Thanks Obara, this was a very good read…

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