I am re-posting this post because I feel very passionate about the topic. About a year ago I told someone about her sister who lives in another state, that she was ill and no one knew it not even her, the sister. I warned that she should advise her sister to see the doctor, she ignored me, changed the subject with a passing comment that the Lord reveals all things to her about her family. The person with whom I spoke is a staunch christian but calls me from time to time and tries to tell me her dreams for interpretation or tells me about a particular situation and keeps quiet in hopes of me saying that I see such and such, which I did until I realized that when we speak alone together she listens and we exchange thoughts.
When she is out of earshot she condemns me and who I am, almost alluding to the fact that I might actually be Satan , lolol. My genuine intention to assist her in clarifying questions that she knew not the answers to and which she sought on her own from me without any regards to using me at all, was scoffed at and jeered behind my back and she thought that I knew it not. So time and time again this, JESUS incarnate, (and I call her so because she seems with her suggestions to want people to believe it is so), calls me and picks my brain, foolishly not realizing that I know of the viper that she is, and listens to her believing that she is tricking me. Mahatma Gandhi said and I quote ” Christians I like your Christ but I do not like you Christians!!”, Which I find to be a brilliant Quote because the personality that is given to the mythical Jesus is wonderful!!!. Such a loving and gentle character, and a kind and beloved healer, preaching love and peace and unity, yet his so-called followers are hateful and wicked!!. It does not match their master who I might add was not Christian!, he was a Jew!.
When dying on the cross the Martyred man of Sorrows forgave his enemies. His last words were a prayer in their behalf, He taught his disciples to curse not, but to bless even their foes. But the heirs of St. Peter the self-constituted representatives on earth of that same meek JESUS, unhesitatingly curse whoever resists their despotic will. Besides, was not the “Son” long since crowded by them into the background?, They make their obeisance only to the Dowager Mother, (mother Mary) for _____ according to their teaching____________ (christianity), again through “the direct Spirit of God,” SHE alone acts as a mediatrix. (Isis Unveiled, H. P. Blavatsky).
The woman’s sister is now in the hospital battling some illness which I will not name, because it has been found too late, I believe, if she had heeded at the time I told her and even pass the message along, the sister might have gone to the Doctor to check on herself and possibly the sickness could have been caught in time giving the woman some chance of surviving. For the sister I pray earnestly for a miracle, because Lucifer, who I, being a spiritualist/traditionalist represents to those that knows nothing about my ways of practice holds no hammer over my head not to, regardless of his evil ways.
I felt the need to repost this Post, It’s Quite too often that I hear human beings condemning people who are spiritually gifted. Some will walk on the left but if they did not have a demand for their services they would have to be quiet.
As someone proud to be a Spiritualist/Traditionalist, I must say it is disheartening to be compared to those who are of evil ways or Intentions. It is worse when people realize that I was Initiated In Africa, In the Ifa/Orisha Tradition as a child of Orisha Osun, beautiful goddess of the river, and of fertility, love, wealth, beauty, family and so much more. When I was a part of the revival (spiritual church), and use to robe myself nicely, with my beautiful wrap on my head and go to Church, people in my neighborhood would whisper and stare, so much that an enemy told my then Land Lord that I had Obeahed him so that he would never be able to remove me from his his house, should he ever would want to, and he believed. It took a long time for him to confess this to me, but only because I found out that he was stealing my cable and accosted him on it. Ignorance and fear walks together and therefore are the root and stem of all evil. It is through fear and ignorance that drags the “so-called witch to the stakes”. God is the creator of all and everything, and if some one is talented enough to assist the other with whatever Spiritual problem, why condemn them?.
There is a scripture in the bible about a man called Job, and if I read it correctly wasn’t it GOD who “flung Job under the bus”, by asking the Devil to consider tempting him?, but cautioned Satan “Do not take his life”. But as the Yoruba people say “the Devil is always the fall guy for wicked people deeds”. I refered to Jobs story because I wanted to also be fair in making you the reader understand that evil also has its place in the world, set so by the same God we all serve. I spoke to someone last night while I was in the middle of writing this post. She had no idea of what I was doing when she called, but because spirit is ever in motion, she brought up the subject of Spiritual people doing evil and making sacrifices and a lot of fear concerning anything regarding people who were involved in this craft.
She went on to tell me that she had an African friend who is from Nigeria and he is a Christian and when she told him that she had met an Osun Priestess he cautioned her to be careful of Orisha people because they are this and they are that, and that Osun gives children to barren women, but human beings had to be sacrificed for it. He told this woman all kinds of things and she believed!!!.
Lies!! lies!! lies!!! and more lies!, but I have come to realize that people have a tendency to believe lies over the truth. The truth is too quiet. It does not make the noise and excitement that lies does. It bangs and clangs while the truth softly whistles. Therefore the bulk of mans knowledge is structured around LIES!!!..because the truth cannot be heard. There are sixty six books in the Bible, thirty-nine books in the Torah (used by the Jews) and the Koran (Islamic book) has one hundred and fourteen Suras. Doctrines which were written by man to contain our minds and enslave them, to the point of murder by any one of these followers to any body that condemn their doctrines. Is that evil? Do you hate me and want to hurt me if I say I do not worship Jesus, Mohammed or throw away the Torah? I have been a Spiritualist all my life and have never done harm to any one. The African who told the woman all those lies about his own people should also tell her that after he has hung the phone with her, he comes to our shrine and seek divination, or if he is a Pastor he will be brining his olive oil to be placed on Osuns shrine for Sunday morning healing tomorrow, he should tell her how many times he has bowed before a Babalawo and has had his head cleansed. He should tell her what rites and rituals have been done to the church compound before they build the church to ensure a big following and lots of money. The catholic priest should tell you the real reason why incense is burnt inside the church and why if the bible speaks against statues as idolatry do they have statues inside and outside the chuch, what is the real reason ashes is placed on the fore heads on ash Wednesday, why is Jesus image in the church, isn’t that idolatry also? why does the Pope wear red shoes when he walks and the true meaning of the hat he wears!. When we do what our forefathers did it is labeled as witchcraft. Because of the stigma of witchcraft in Africa, Africans will not discuss this subject with an outsider, it matters not if you are black, they do not see you that way, because of slavery they say we are not authentic blacks, they will condemn their own power and throw their own people under the proverbial bus. I agree that there are people who have abused the gift that God has given to them and the knowledge that they have, but that is a choice that they have made which carries its own consequences, every man/woman and child will have to answer to his or her deeds when the time comes. But do not place me under an umbrella because I wear white everyday or black for that matter, if I wear beads around my neck symbolising to the world that I am Orisha’s child, if mi JUMP Poco, dance Kumina (Eddie Seaga, former Prime Minister of Jamaica), a practitioner of voodoo (Jean- Claude ‘Baby Doc’ Duvalier), Lucumi, Candomblé, Kabbalah (no one has ever accused Madonna) Palo Mayombe or whatever Spiritual practice . I can assure you that at the core of these practices is the warning not to do evil, but people will be people and as such do what ever they feel, but with the knowledge that there is a price to pay.
I end this by saying, if some one is suffering financially and I know how to assist them so that they can manage, why do you stigmatize me and call me a Obeah woman?. If I give them a spiritual bath or fix them a candle or Spiritually clean their home so that they could endure life a little better, why should this be labeled something so negative as Obeah? Why verbally brutalize me if I have to make a blood sacrifice to save someone who is sick and dying or an innocent who is about to get the death sentence or life imprisonment? Am I not doing a good thing?. If there are malevolent forces behind a couple’s marriage and they come for divination because they suspect that something is wrong and I through the power that God has given to me help in saving the marriage and therefore sending back the evil forces into time and space, was I wrong to do it?? Edgar Cayce the sleeping prophet use to go to sleep and wake up revealing the secrets of the akashic records in the halls of judgement in the spiritual realm and nobody accused of him of witchcraft, but if I make an accurate prophecy or some healing is done through my actions, I am the she devil in white….Human Beings please lets all work together and kill fear, which is our oppressor.
It does not matter what or who you worship as long as you believe in a higher power. The word religion it self divides and breeds strife and animosity between people. There is only one judge and that is the creator of us all. “God has no religion”….a quote by Mahatma Ghandi,
The Devil is always the fall guy for wicked people deeds!!...Yoruba Proverb.
All religions are valid as long as it teaches peace and love…Obara Meji!
[…] help with visions and dreams and of course I would help in all ways and just as I wrote in the post The condemnation of the spiritual worker, I was criticized, vilified and demonized behind my back and it hurt, I cannot tell a lie, it hurt. […]
Lalibella, I kid you not. I thought of that name for you but didn’t want to suggest it. We on the same page…
MTH, perfect love, I am ready for the exchange on Saturday 🙂
Mr. Nine [word play on Mr. Nile]
Gwan chu Mr. Nile…A yu sey ready fi clash..
Sango deh on ah vist Ty, nuff lightening and thunder?, how him wife Oya ah gwan wid de breeze?
Yes they are both here a do dem thing…Me already salute di both a dem…
Lalibella just text mi a sey him a speak to him lawyers dem fi know which name fi use. His manager will getin touch wid mi, re him clash name…Yu eva si suh boasyness before…..Mi like it…
Unless a new name is given by the ones, I will come up with something by Saturday. A Yoruba name is preferred–something depicting the power and justice given to mankind by the Divine One
Mi sey, mek di Obara she gwan a gi laugh fi peas soup..
Mi juss Lalibella roun pan Cassette Jones ends a buy some cassette fi get di original clash chune dem…Mi all si him a buy Osyters and a drink bare corn-meal par-ridge…Man a fit up….Mek Obara gwan tek him lightly…
Yuh tink my MTH, easy!
hahahaha a tru man it sweeet mi doe wen mi come read an si rules an qualifications well set aside loooooooooooool
yuh waan gi mi mommy O, mommy whara, whne mi ole mi wi hackcep it right yah nung mi ah young gal….who memba DJ daddy, lmaoooooo!
Bubblez talk di chute doan everybody have stage name? Super Cat, the Apache…Ninja Man, front teet, side teet, gun pan teet, don gargon…
but a wah dis ina di Wed mawnin yah str888 grung mi reach n pred whey!!! is wah do MTH bout rules an stage name yu is a living joke hahahahaha lol
Wi know sey yu name powerful…Mi naah guh feel good every try mi type Lalibella mi know sey is dat man get defeated…Yu si like how yu have Lady Saw and Marion Hall and yu can book Lady Saw different from how yu book Marion Hall? Said way yu can book Bounty Killa different fromhow yu book Rodney Price…A suh mi waan di ting set…
*straight*, Lighter!!!! A wey dem girls dem?
MTH, what’s the suggested name?
awoah, caws dem is fighting words!!
Well Teach a yu mi did a try protect enno, cause mi nuh waan when Lalibella win, mi haffi sey Obara was defeated…It naah guh soun good..Mi will feel betta, if mi sey Mumma O or what ever yu choose….
Teach a fun mi a mek can mi know yu can tek di mustering…(mi juss waan lalibella feel like him a guh win an den yu juss bus a win pan him…Sikes mi a use)…
mi name wha mi name and mi name cyaa change, lmaooooo!
Lalibella re-surface badda dan eva….since mi have di two contestants together here are fi unno rules….
1. Refer to the lesson of yesterday, gentleness and good character (unno fi behave)
2. The winner and the 1st runner up, must be gracious (both in success & defeat)
3. Must be able to concede defeat
4. Must have a unique clash name (just for this event)
No hiding around 🙂
Lalibella yu gone into hiding papa and di clash nuh start?…. For the clash Saturday night we need 3 judges…If you are willing and able, please send in you music resumes. (We definately need a male perspective..) Application closes Friday, July 4, 2014 at 6:00 p.m. To qualify as a judge: 1. One MUST have been to a dance/stage show (preferably Sing) 2. One MUST know what a cassette is 3. Know the significance of places like Skateland, Harbour View Round-A-Bout, House of Leo 4. If terms such as Gemini, Tarus, Aries that we are not talking about astrology *soon… Read more »
Big up mi ESP family…
This is why I am addicted to you all…love di vibes… a grung me deh…
I will be in and out, between work and a dodge Shango a do him ting today…
lol, very good!
LOL, you might have to teach me how to fret [worry] and I currently don’t subscribe to such 🙂
lol, fret Lali, we coming rough!!!!!
MTH, I see you give me a few mi best friend!
Morning Lalibela, I am here writing todays posts, and ah plan fi Saturday match
Yoruba empress, I am patiently awaiting for that time and space called Saturday!
Blessed Love one and all!!!
MTH, plz try back, mawning oooooo!
Greetings all nice and decent ppl. Bubblez yu ting tun up. Up, up, up!!! Ty when yu ready fi bun yu fire yu caan cool!!! Teach maximum respect….
Soon come wid di clash rules!!!
Mi a learn doh lol
U a star student Kiab…
Hahaha if u eva si how mi fling di peeny wallie n di piece a tissue out di door! Grung mi nuh like litter in dis case it di necessary
Obaraaaaa peeny wallie just was in my room lol mi nuh kill it doh memba u seh leff dem suh mi ketch him n put him back outside cah mi nuh sleep wid bug in yah lol
Yes so mi si andi proud
Nite ladies mi deh yah a press mi batty rider fi wi pawty saturday dwl mi nah juggle a dance mi aguh dance n wine up mi neat baddii woooiiee
Yes kiab, up inna di video light…love it…
Up up up up walk out walk out pretty luks nuh done pon wi a baaaay dwl
Ty, about that seven generations nutten nuh guh suh de writer is wrong we will discuss it tomirrow
Ok, cause m a dig… Some a dem, mi only know the nick name…eg mum…lol
Clap yuh self Kia
Fear is a helluva ting eeh the diaspora destroyed so much n we still nah get it back. Smh
Same such kiab…
It sad cause di East Indians and Chinese were slaves too, dem keep de names and proud a dem religion…we di black shame, run left we name and religion… Even in 2014…
Yes ty n we continue fi remain lost eno n cuss ppl weh wake up to dem spirituality. Aye sah
Tmrw mi cyaa wait fi call mommy ask fi di name a my ancestors n likkle history. Mi short couple generations n mi waa honor all a dem. Im learning the importance an i like it.
Mi and you kiab, lev di ancestor honoring bad… Mi on 4 generations and will try go back to at least 7 like dem seh…
Mi feel sorry fi di lady sister…why her sister mek dat reach her. If she can call n talk to Obara n get readings she cyaa sensse the realness of obara meji?! smh even if she neva belev she shoulda share the info with her sister. Mus shame she shame cah she a talk to spiritualist n she a jesus incarnate. Lol
O da aaro good night obara ty es fam
Odaroooooo!!! Kia oooooo
In keeping wid the warning of no fake cheese products…look at this…
Di other day mi struggle wid two Yoruba word…you know mi say to mi self…growing up catholic, you know how much chants, kires, prayers, and novenas mi know in Latin…I used to attend English and Latin mass…even did some in Spanish…
So mi head no tuff… Watch me and di Yoruba…you gonna think a Lagos me born…
Lol, ok yuh nuh so lalibela ah plan fi we Saturday, sound clash!
Me see…two words for him…Robert French…
lol MTH nuh ez enuh she just reach out to me an sey she deh deh ah work out de clash! Grung
If what they call obeah is lighting candles, chanting, burning incense, sprinkling holy water…den a straight catholism dat…
How yuh fi struggle with Yoruba words and I am here?
Lol…when I write I never forget, got a weird brain…I wrote a word that I know how it is said and it’s meaning, you helped me already wid it…then when I needed to recall it…it would not come…
I know we as blacks in the diaspora lost a lot…but research, look stuff up, question why things are done…get a reading… See a true gifted spiritualist…you will be amazed…
This is 2014 people, wake up…
If I hear the bible quote make me white as snow one more time…straight rebellion…
They will never wake up they choose to stay asleep
It burn me fi see black people cringe when dem hear me talk about Osun but love hear bout saints… What is up wid dat?
Why are we so afraid of anything that mentions spirits?… Yet we Christians say in the name of the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit…
Why does the pope travel in an armored vehicle? Is he not God’s representative on earth? Why him fraid fi dead?
Why we fraid a sacrifice, yet still if we Jcans build a new construction site, we kill an animal…
When animals are sacrificed, they are thanked and honored…they do not fight, as if they give permision…
I know I am ranting but it raw…
Go on Ty
Love call people likes Obeah waman and live cuss we and if yuh si fi dem life set ah heathen
Hey Obara… Nunu, we miss you, peace and love…memba u choose dem family members… Mth, every disappointment is for a reason…sometimes a bigger and brighter door is on the horizon…me know da pill den hard fi swallow when your kids involved…God is God…and you walk with love and light, you SHALL be protected… Obara, just today I was talking with someone about this… Condemnation of what you do not know but yet still is your life saver when trouble ketch you… I know when trouble ketch you pickney shirt fit you…BUT…after, you should sing praise when you see good… I… Read more »
Such an awesome post…religion divides…religion creates war…
God has no religion…
One day we will realize that love unites and that we are all connected to God…
Howdy Obara, mi haffi guh ketch up on the posts and comments, mi can’t even find time fi sleep, mi guh try come back later when things quiet dung, mi miss everybaddi
Good Afternoon my family! Just passing through for a quick yail up. Mi have one bungle a fambily a mi yaad an mi haffi deh keep everybaddi occupied and entertained, mi tiaad bad, when everybaddi leff tomorrow mi tek up back residency ova yasso!
I wondered where you were Nunu
Not all that glitter is gold; most of that which we see are functions of evil–most don’t know and some don’t care…
There is a direct correlation between ignorance and fear; once the one’s come into the know–if ever–their disposition begins to reflect their respective enlightenment and fear subsides and leads to more cogent behavior and conversations…
She try to find way and take style to come around, but I hold no grudge, I understand that their minds are locked with their religious beliefs, I try to do the right thing and be of good standing in the eyes of my God, whatever people and their convoluted minds think of my, I care not, at times it will pinch, I am human, but i hold my head high and continue
Oguntunde is in the Humility thread
Greetings one and all!!!
Great Teacher, this woman who’s sister has been confirmed to be sick–seemingly terminal now–has she reached back out to you to concede that your presage/admonition was on point?
Which is right…
Greet her MTH, show no heart feelings, she is a great teacher and may have done you a favor!…In Jesus name lolol
Teach, I am learning…
Hi Mth< I feel the same way about my children, I would have dealt with her leaving me at the side of the road in the dead of night differently, I would have walked home and prayed to reach safe, but whenever I I saw her again, I would greet her and when I felt the time was right over lunch or tea or coffee, I would ask her about that night and tell her my fears and how I felt, calmly and gently, but firmly. I would leave her with her conscience, and she does have one, we all… Read more »
Teach, I pity the lady that did not take heed and has to watch her sister suffer sickness. On Saturday you told me that I should watch my small daughter and her left ear. Sunday I had to be away from her, I warned her and told her not to clean/touch her ear. This morning she woke and she complained that her ear was hurting and she used her finger to rub it. I was told 3 days before she started to display any sign of an ear infection.Teach, I dont mind you telling me of things to come whether… Read more »
Mth, this pastor only divines in public? Does she call you aside and tell you what she sees?