October 10, 2014 Obara Meji 270Comment

 This Thursday October 16th 2014 in our book club discussion I Obara Meji have provided the material which you will find the link below, with an Introduction to the subject as well. I will be the one to moderate on the topic. We thank Kiabublez for her contribution to book club night she did a job well done on a very controversial topic. Good job Kia. It is unfortunate that I did not see my regulars to show support, but it is what it is, nuff love same way. Book Club begins @ 8pm, please make an effort to be here, knowledge is power, let us learn together.

I stumbled onto this video today, the brother Sa neter, is someone I know because I use to buy a lot of videos from him down in harlem. He is a very conscious brother, and I loved our many conversations. When you speak with people like his you learn, on that I can assure you. Now this topic is not about white and black to me Obara Meji. It is about logic and what is right. I was born into this religion christianity, which in my opinion, is the worse thing ever to happen to Black people, again My opinion!

I was one of them christians who loved Christ, I still do!..Are you shocked?, I said I still does, do, I likes de bredda!

Let me explain why; I have no idea if this brother existed or not although history says Yes he did. We do not have to believe what history says, because it is just that…His..Story…tainted and revised while being told or written through generations, so I being of sound mind and body cannot trust that entirely. However, the reason I like Jesus Christ, (I do not worship him, or pray in his name, or have him as my lord and saviour, no, not any more) is if what he portrays, benevolence!

Cinderella did not exist, but yet I felt empathy for her and the treatment she received at the hands of her cruel stepsisters and de ugly step madda. Jesus’s character as told in the bible was of a being that was kind natured and loving with a hint of temper (member when him beat de gamblers out of the temple). Now let me be clear, I question the very existence of Jesus, having now become “awake” and realizing that religion is really controll. Just something to believe in and many people just want to BELIEVE. Its just that simple. My attraction to the character is his benevolence, made up or not.

What is sad to me however as an African is that all other races worship and reveres deities that look like them, deities which they identify with culturally and traditionally, except the African. While there are some, how many are rushing to Africa to worship our Gods?

The Cubans worship Lucumi, which came in through the trans atlantic slave trade with them to cuba, when the Yorubas arrived as captured slave on the Island. Among them were Iyanifa’s, olorisha’s and Babalawo’s and other initiates of Ifa/Orisha. They preserved the worship as a collective, and hid the Orishas under the guise of catholic saints, yet slavery has been abolished for years, but the Cubans now call the Yoruba practice Lucimi, and have lightened the skin of the Orishas, changed the names to suit their language, Yemoja is called Yemaya and our Orunmila has become Orula. They even trash talk Africa and Africa from whence their religion came from and discourage people from going to Africa, where Orunmila built his house in Ile Ife Nigeria. So even though for years they had been great custodian of the tradition, they have bastardized it to fit them, while trying to put the African down or as worthless regarding his own legacy. O ma se ooo..My elders in Nigeria including my very powerful husband, told me “leave them, don’t mind them” God sees all things.

Please watch the video (s), I may add more and come mek we reason. Please be here on this very important topic and add you piece. and while you are at it, please pick or choose which one of these men have the most impact on your life;

Marcus Garvey….Jesus Christ…..Malcom X

1-Do you believe in religion? If yes, why and what purpose does it serve and what has religion done for you?

2-Should race (skin color) matter whether in tradition or religion, in who we worship or venerate as deity?

3- Seeing that there is no image of God in any religion or tradition, how do you vision the God you serve?

4- Why is it that some black people easily subscribe to the idea of worshipping or believing in another race as their God, while rejecting their own?

5- Why do you believe that the black man hate himself and his brother

6- Why do the black man look to other races as superior to him, this shows in him kneeling before a white image of his deity? Does that image of a white Jesus play into his Psyche as a subliminal message, and if so do you believe that christianity is and has been used to keep black people enslaved? (If this question sound repetitive, please inform me)

7 – Was all this planned?

Watch this video, I may add more

The Psychological Effects Of White Jesus Continue To Haunt Us

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTM-nSdkSPU

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Cas
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Good night Obara . And good night to all my peeps

Yw
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Night Night Obara. And remember: You are Phenomenal.

Cami
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Cami

Obara and NuNu…blessings.

Obara Meji
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Yw memba yuh promise fi teach mi Kung fu

Obara Meji
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Hiyah hi yah hooooo, seet deh fi choooooo!

Yw
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Hiya hiya hoo diss ya one yah new fi all di massive and dancehall crew…

Obara Meji
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Might Nuni

Good job Cami

NuNu
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Goodnight Cami, Obara, Yw, ES fam!

Yw
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To me, pastors and those in power should be held to a greater standard than everyday people. I heard about a case where a pastor had three baby mother among parishioners at his church. Shameful…. ah him name creator to rahtid…

Cami
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Cami

There’s one we had a link on that was whoring down the place, knowing he has that death ninja.

Cami
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Cami

Okay, This session is now over. I thank ALL who participated. Again, it was a pleasure to have Toy for a while. Wish our spiritual sister Ty recovery and energy. Big up Cass, please to return…AND BLESS UP we Spiritual BROTHER YW who is so genuine that it transcends through his writings and infectious humor. Love yah. Blessings on you, Ty and the boys alway…Ase.

Yw
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Night, night to all. Thank you Cami (mi sister – whispered in hush tone), OBARA MEJI (Twin), of course, thanks for all that you do, Nunu thanks for all the detentions, Cas thanks for stopping in and please come again, Toy – no ice-cream sound (just ice-cream duppy fi Nuns), Kia B see you soon. To everyone I may have missed sorry, thank you and pleasant dreams. Hasta manana

Cami
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Cami

“no ice-cream sound (just ice-cream duppy fi Nuns)”

Yu couldn’t help yu self?! Grung fi dat!

Yes KiaB…sleep well. Sleep well Yw.

Yazzy big up

Cami
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Cami

Yw, i notice the use of weapons and weaponized in your answer. And I do agree because we have seen Jesus image used as a weapon of indoctrination and intimidation of people throughout the world, and over centuries.

It has been weaponized to assist in world domination of free thinking/will in the form of the Christian religion with the being termed as the lord and savior of mankind.

Yw
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Yes ma’am. And they used it to “save” the Native Americans and many African tribes. They use the white image to make it easier to subjugate those of other ethnicities, saying: that image (the white image) is your savior….

Cami
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Cami

NuNu is it firemen you referring to with “your savior” that they call heros, lol. That is another abuse postition…cause to rescue a kitten don’t mek one a hero.

Obara Meji
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Àṣẹ thank you Cami and everyone Yw welcome home!

NuNu
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Unfortunately that concept isn’t limited to just religion, “your savior”

Cami
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Cami

…some say its the creator! lol

Yw
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That is one of the abominable parts of slavery – the theft and desecration of a people’s tradition and culture..

Obara Meji
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I agree

Obara Meji
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Cas nice man

Yw
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Answered for me..

Cami
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Cami

So…have we addressed questions that concerned us about this image that has either satisfied some people spiritual hunger, haunted some-like myself, or has it created more distress?

NuNu
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How about all of the above.

Cami
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Cami

lol, NuNu we will have to revisit this as the thoughts come to you then.

Yw
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Who want to hear a conspiracy idea – The conspiracy behind the ES blog: Can’t get enough done during the day because you are busy checking the ES blog…It is a conspiracy, the likes of which go all the way to the top and……………if you don’t see me again I have enclosed the documents in an envelope that will be sent to the major news centers of the world. This is too big to let go people….

NuNu
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Lolol Yw gwaan a yuh bed this instant!lolol
Obara sen’ smaddy guh a di yaad fi collec’ those documents fore it reach news!

Obara Meji
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Nunu in in it

Obara Meji
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Lok

Cami
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Cami

tell of the conspiracy to bring back hibernating members, especially one of the most sincere one , lol

Cami
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Cami

Yw, as long a yu nu go turn bear fi long we good, lol.

It’s also good to see Cass whom I never met before and would love to see again.

Toy, sleep well it was a pleasure to have you even for a while-tonight.

Yw
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Cami, did you hear….some of the members get to the point where they take in a great deal of good info and then change into…..yes, I mean physically change into a bear so that they can hibernate and let the info marinate unto a deeper level….It has caused disappearances and occasional brain farts…very curious, indeed…

NuNu
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Cami why yuh mention ‘cocktails’!!! A wud yuh deh chrow? Yuh know what 1 week fi yuh straight!!! Yuh should be ashamed of yourself, nobody not never did get more detention than YW yet! What an example Cami! Cas pay attention this sort of behavior is unacceptable!

Cas
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NuNu me a pay attention 🙂

Cami
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Cami

“Whistle while you work” lolol. Yu gwan last time you had to straighten your monitor sash cause Yw had you a pitch a grung! dwln

Obara Meji
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Grung

Obara Meji
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Grunggggggg, ah choooo

NuNu
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Mi.hope Ty feel better in the morrows, body come dung can mash yuh up ie nuh star!

NuNu
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By time yuh walk outta door the heapa vaseline mek di boot slidey lol, yuh knowhow much time mi slip and drop! Lolol

Cas
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You a kill me Obara

NuNu
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Cas yuh cyaan follow Obara ie nuh! Don’t laugh mi an yuh a frien’ from long time an yuh record still clean mi nuh want yuh in league wid Cam,Yw and Teach, cause mi nuh wan’ haffi gi yuh detention tuh

Cas
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Had to laugh

Cas
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I am leaning as I go along

Cas
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Ok,I that did not know

Yw
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Cas, think about how old the bible is (centuries) and that it was not written by 1 or 2 or 3 people. Then, think about it being edited numerous times. Then, think about the scriptures that were completely removed…What we have is not what the bible should be. Like me some Psalms, though..

Cami
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Cami

Psalms is so out of place in the bible. I’m a Psalms fan.

NuNu
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Obara yuh more than fascinated wid dem church hat ie nuh!

Cas
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Jesus came on this earth to teach us how to love one another but instead of that people consider him as he fake prophetic .The lesson was to teach us to love each other.I think that’s why he died, because there was a lot of people that love them and they did not like that.

Cami
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Cami

Yet the sames sins remains, and has multiplied.

NuNu
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Cami and Teach di 3pm slot is yours!

Cami
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Cami

Dat time slot full cause a two Yw collect one time…lol

Try hol a slot fi yu self cause you a ask some serious questions! lol

Yw
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Always wonder: if dem love Jesus suh, why the image of him on the crucifix? Sacrifice fi wi sin? But mi never sin before mi born….

NuNu
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Yw detention promptly at 2:00 pm tomorrow, wid yuh no sinning self!

Cami
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Cami

GRUNG! NuNu yu get up yet and find yu pen fi write the slips up? lol

Yw
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Yuh know… mi nuh feel right less yuh go mi at least 2 detention in 1 night….So, one more to go…heehee

Cami
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Cami

See why me MISSED YU! I cannot for the life of me understand that macabre icon. Yet…again you have (me darling century ole granny is one) we holy rollers talking about graven images.

Yw
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To me it is a symbol of cruelty. Why would I embrace that?

NuNu
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I agree with the strength part Yw and Cami, when you talk about a people that know struggle inside and out, that’s us we’re survivors. Our minds however for the most part have been whittled down

NuNu
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Lol! If mi neva shame bout mi previous behavior mi woulda give out couple slip tonight Cami, Kia and of course no surprise Yw, unoo comments up top, lol

Cami
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Cami

Yu didn’t see that you were forewarned by Yw to walk with you pad? lol.

NuNu
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Yes I’ve heard of the black Israelites, I didn’t know that Marcus Garvey considered himself one. Were they the Nubians?

Cami
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Cami

Nah. Nubia predate that.

Obara Meji
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God is neither white or a man

Obara Meji
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Me, Macbeth , a mid summers night dream and Orthello

Cas
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He is light

Cas
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One of the man in the video said Marcus Garvey was misled by the Israelite to make black people go back to Africa .I really don’t know much about Malcolm X are Marcus Garvey so that was very interested for me watching the video and learning at the same time so that was interested and see people different point of view and religion .

Cami
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Cami

I’m not a Garvey fan (clear the air I must) and from the state of Liberia today date…I’m glad none of my relatives didn’t go there.

Cas
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Ok thank you Obara

Cas
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as a little girl growing up in Jamaica .my family did not believe in religion ,I never been to a church when I was in Jamaica before but at the same time. I know there was a God they talk about selassie. My family was rosta so I guess selassie and God is the same thing right

Cami
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Cami

My, My, My. Cass no they aren’t the same. For rostah sake…we will just pust selasie and jesus in the same camp or person.

Yw,

Cami
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Cami

🙂 🙂 Me did think Cas was going to do a come back. so, me call you out fi tek over if it get too heavy fi me after that blow, lol

Yw
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Cami, no, no, no… You will not inveigle me into your shenanigans. I refuse….

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

When watching the video i start cringe after so many people pick jesus. I question the pitni on marcus garvey n surprisingly he knew nuff. Even told me some things lol

NuNu
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Did you see how many people were offended when the guy asked, what would you say if I told you he didn’t exist?

Cami
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Cami

lol, the “former” stereotype (me rude bad) nearly went down for a felony! lol

Cas
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Lol is the iPad did not know it was changing

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

It shouldnt matter the race but it does. How can i honestly embrace my oppresor. Maybe if i had the snydrome that makes yu love ur abuser…idk rostah yes toy every old time church had the white face, blond hair, blue eye jesus but the bible said golden bronze skin n hair like lambs wool. So who the man in the picture?! Ty shared that it was caesar borgia lol i cyaa maniji dem ppl

Cas
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I wonder too who is that man in the picture that they’re showing that’s God

NuNu
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It’s all a mind trip, and I wonder what it’s going to take to get out of it. Yw always mention introspection, and we need that more than ever.

Cami
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Cami

It look like Ty right…spitting image just with a little less weight and longer hair.

Yw
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Mi ah dead aid laugh….chicken batty… Mi fada use to ask mi if mi nam fowl batty mek mi chat so much…

Cami
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Cami

Warning Offensive: That heart that they put in the pictures. As a likkle girl that use to love use stick and poke the fowl in them batty caused me to think the heart look like a fowl batty…seriously.

Cami
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Cami

Me wanted fi brush it, lolol

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Cami i laff when me seet. Same facial structure n features. Dem seh tek people fi fool

Yw
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Yuh wah plait ‘I’m hair, don’t it?

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

I did belive in religion. I feel because i was raised in church. The whole family goes to church together. I felt diferent about certain lessons tje parson teach n why he never answer questions about jesus. The story of jesus is sweet n loving but i wanted to know what happen between his teens n age 33. I never understood how is only christians going to heaven. What about the muslims n jehovah witness that live good without sin, they cant go heaven? too many questions n no answer i felt religion wasny doing anything. Parson preach prosperity n di whole a wi a struggle. Smdh

Cami
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Cami

Kia, did you also wondered how come its one god or one jesus and all these different churches and views?

Yw
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The worst thing that I was taught was to give in expectation of getting blessed. If you going to give do so because you want to not to receive – it corrupts the act.

toy7318
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Yw lmao lmao @more than blessed

Yw
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Mary Magdelene get more dan bless…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Yu zeet bredda blessing tied to offering…that no right. Poor people cant get blessing? what about the lady that only washed jesus feet. She was blessed abundantly for only her kind works.

NuNu
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I remember I was taught that all angelic beings are male and blonde with blue eyes; that is the epitome of purity and perfection. So when you think along these line what does that mean for people who don’t look like that? As a people we buy it hook, line and sinker

Cami
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Cami

absolutely. The act must be without the hope for a reward. I think the purest act is for instance…a man standing behind a park car and its rolling back. You see it and run to push them out the way…no hope for a reward because you had no time to consider giving in expectation…

toy7318
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4- Why is it that some black people easily subscribe to the idea of worshipping or believing in another race as their God, while rejecting their own? The reason is because they don’t want to pick up a book and read. I feel that if they do they would have questions of this so called Jesus. Why is that Jesus always has sun behind his head in all of his pictures. I mean I think that black should out who is Horus and Ahmen. No, don’t I believe in Jesus but that is just me.

Cami
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Cami

Good view point Toy. Our people like the unfortunate European peasant population, ruled under religious intimidation parrots what is orally passed down to them about Christianity.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Hey Yw long time no see bredda. Yes aunty Obara lol trying think…just drink 2 hurricanes so di mind a run slow. Tek time with me

Yw
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Big up Kia B!!!

NuNu
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It would have been nice if they taught about Marcus Garvey in schools, in the video alot of the people especially younger people didn’t know who Marcus was that’s ashame.

cas
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NuNu ,Yes that would be nice if they would teach about Marcus Garvey because in the video if the man did not say that was Marcus Garvey.I would not know ,I heard about him though but not too much.

Yw
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Hail up Cas!!

NuNu
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Hey Cas, when I was in school they taught Eurpean history more than black history. To tell you the truth as far as I can remember black history was limited to slavery

toy7318
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Ok I give some input to question number 6. It has been embedded in us as black people that Jesus is white, because if you go to black churches you see pictures of Jesus and he is white, so yes subconsciously that Jesus is white. Yes, I do believe that Christianity is keeping black people enslaved, because as soon as you tend to stray from the beliefs of the bible you are consider a devil worshipper and you are evil.

Cami
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Cami

It also created a gender division. I can tell you I don’t like any body interfering with me and my earrings (ears pierce before me was one and chain and bangle down from birth, lol) relax hair and whatever clothes me want to wear.

I strongly believe that black women (the ugly hat crowd) who wear long skirts, zero jewelry but wedding band and looking outdated at all times and say its because of church, they are serving god and keeping it pure. They are stuck in slave mode.

The slave mode I’m referring to his when Massa wife prohibited black women from showing any kind of style and beauty. So they had to tie their heads, wear scrape cloth given during the once a year closet cleaning of the plantation owners, female family members. I refuse to not highlight me beauty just like white women.

Yw
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Male chauvinism disgusts me. Then again female chauvinism aggravates me too…..it seems as if I am in a constant state of annoyance…A really moody mi moody fi true? No but seriously, a huge set of problems arise from patriarchal systems and the failure to appreciate and respect women within those types of systems. Vatican is one of those systems…

Cami
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Cami

White as in European (although it wasn’t in existence as such a place then) or “white” in complexion? I think the white comes into play because of those Vatican commissioned paintings.

Cami
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Cami

Have I ever?! most certainly! That was and still his a haven full of powerful bats.

Yw
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Ever notice how Vatican rhyme aid batty ma…..sorry, sorry..

Yw
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Night, Toy (not to be played with-Rahhh)…That is one of the problems I have with that religion ting – My own right and every odda one wrong… Who holds the power in that system? MAN dem at the top, not the consciousness all around us. How dat (all round wi) fi devil?

NuNu
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That’s true Yw, he’s the best part of the entire bible to me, his character is amazing and if we could live like that theworld would be a bbetter place. I’m just not sure about the philosophy built around him

Cami
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Cami

NuNu, I believe there are many elements of “Jesus” in our society. But utopia can never be present on this earth realm…good and bad must be in play for a balance of all things…even that Christian character knew that.

Cami
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Cami

The same that was around before and during Jesus, except we have technology.

NuNu
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Yes Cami but I don’t think there is a balance, it is extremely one sided. I see more darkness than light in this world

Yw
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You mean the story around him?

NuNu
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Yes Yw, the foundation of the Christian religion

Yw
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I love the story of Jesus. I don’t know nor care if he was real. I just like the story of a person making the choice to try and be the best they can be. Of course, I have a problem with the immaculate conception, all man disciple crew, and a few other things in the story but a good read none the less.

Cami
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Cami

And for me it is the stories of Jesus that caused me to question the entire Christian institution from as early as age 4-5.

Yw
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Night all!!!!!

Cami
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Cami

Me can’t stop embrace yu…good night SIR.

Cami
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Cami

lolol…….reSSSSpect, lol

Yw
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Sorry, is out of respect’ why I used a big “S”..heehee…SSSSSSSSSssssss

Cami
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Cami

lolol cause it go ssssssssssssssssssssss? lol

Yw
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Night night mi Sis (respect’ why is a bug “S”)

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Good night people i are here. I can never visualize a face for God. I only get an image of light when thinking of him.

Cami
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Cami

And so do I…we on the right path with that.

Yw
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1-Do you believe in religion?
NO. To me, religion is industrialized spirituality; processed from the minds of those before me; weaponized to use faith and hope against believers of whichever particular belief.

2-Should race (skin color) matter whether in tradition or religion, in who we worship or venerate as deity?
In my opinion, people should be free to worship whatever they want if it does no harm to another. If someone want to worship cow crap, feel free, as long as you are not throwing it on me.

3- Seeing that there is no image of God in any religion or tradition, how do you vision the God you serve?
Personally, image of a diety is irrelevant to me, it is the concept that is important. My idea of God or the Universal Consciousness is that it encompasses everything, so how do you quantify that?

4- Why is it that some black people easily subscribe to the idea of worshipping or believing in another race as their God, while rejecting their own?
The devastation of colonialism and western/European imperialism have long lasting effects. However, it is past time to release that baggage; stop letting others define who we are. See the traps within the system and aim to outmaneuver them.

5- Why do you believe that the black man hate himself and his brother
Again, effects of the past. If we think of how we are molded by our personal history, imagine the effects of generations of degradation, misinformation, and miseducation – still going on today because it is built into the system.

6- Does that image of a white Jesus play into his Psyche as a subliminal message, and if so do you believe that christianity is and has been used to keep black people enslaved? Yes to all.

7 – Was all this planned?
Most definitely. Think of this, in a monetary based system who has control? What is the point of a weapons maker without war?

Cami
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Cami

Yw answers:

1) was “NO” and the most powerful part of his explanation of why was “…weaponized to use faith and hope against believers of whichever particular belief.”

All Perfect responses from Yw for those struggling with an honest opinion/answer to the questions.

NuNu
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Goodnight folks!

Cami
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Cami

NuNu, rope in, rope in.

Cami
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Cami

Ring ding ding ding ding…It’s now 8 pm! Book club is now in session. Good evening all attendees, I’ll be assisting Obara Meji tonight and our dear Ty has lead us off on the topic. We can take a few minutes to review the question posted before tonight, then we can proceed fully.

*Take note: Bloggers and Peepers…this isn’t a Chrisitan base site. Therefore, any offense taken by our open discussion wasn’t deliberate, but that is just the way it read because we aren’t on the same page. Ase.

Yw
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Ase

toy7318
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I am here

Cami
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Cami

A pleasure to see you TOY7318. Let’s review and then begin.

toy7318
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Hi teacher Obara, Cami Boo our assistant teache. let me review

Ty
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Sorry to get started so early…it is hard for me in the week to get thru the material…after watching the video, I could not help but comment…

Ty
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Ty
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Over 400 years of whipping will make you believe anything…black people will believe anything…that is why even some blacks think they are white…

Ty
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God is energy…omnipotent…that we cannot understand fully…we are however able to tap into portions of this energy thru prayer and meditation…we use deities to try to comprehend portions or aspects of this urn fathomable force ….

Ty
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I do NOT believe in religion…

Ty
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The story of Jesus is great one…it resonates with me because like Jesus, I too am a bastard…

However how his story was used to in doctrinate my ancestors…they were tortured, raped, and killed in his name….

Ty
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To answer the question in the video, I choose the man in the middle, the pic of Jesus…it was that same picture and the one of Mary that made me question my ideas on God, the bible, religion, and spirituality …it was what lead me on this path…

I am no longer Christian but was, and if that picture did not haunt me, I prolly still would be Christian…the man in the picture does not look like me and late at night his eyes would creep me out…

Obara Meji
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Almost every one pick Jesus

Cami
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Cami

…or god as some of them referred to the Jesus picture.

Yw
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Dat one always confuse me. How people think of jesus and God as one in the same?

Obara Meji
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Lol

Ty
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Well well…” We in the skreets”…. Grung…

Not sure who is my fav character : the first guy, guy in hoodie at 40 min, or the one at 44mon with the blus scarf…lol

Very interesting topic…

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The first man i shall call “yoggie bear” look like he wanted to commit a felony upon being told Jesus isn’t real, lol

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