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Obara Meji commented on the post, The Many Faces of the Yoruba Orishas and their Manifestations 2 years, 7 months ago
I thank you very much for this comment and your story. I would like to learn more about your Dinis traditional practice. All traditional practice are the same and are ine, culture, language and environmental may create the variant but all are but ONE.
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Obara Meji commented on the post, The Many Faces of the Yoruba Orishas and their Manifestations 2 years, 8 months ago
There is hard work in the way for you my dear, however it will yield profitable if you persevere.
Remember labour is not always physical. The hardest work most often is mental labour! Stress? -
Obara Meji commented on the post, The Many Faces of the Yoruba Orishas and their Manifestations 2 years, 8 months ago
Thank you my dear
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Obara Meji commented on the post, The Many Faces of the Yoruba Orishas and their Manifestations 2 years, 8 months ago
We are living is a material world, a place that is chaotic. A deity will appear to us any how they choose. As l said it is how the human being limited brain process what they have encountered.
In the human way of understanding the human understand genders, man and woman.If a bath tub appears to a human in the dream or a tire and claim to be…[Read more]
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Obara Meji commented on the post, The Gifts We Receive in Spiritual Suffering — My Journal of Channeled Messages of 1999 2 years, 8 months ago
What a lovely comment, sometimes I wonder if I am alone here when I write and at times I want to remove the blog, but words like these are encouraging. Thank you so much!
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Obara Meji commented on the post, The Many Faces of the Yoruba Orishas and their Manifestations 2 years, 8 months ago
This is a very good question, let me try to do justice to it.
Here in Africa our Ifá/Orisha traditional practice is a practice of sacrifice. I am not shy to tell you that most often than not, blood is included in the sacrifice. Why should I be shy to tell you this when many of you or your families eat meat, those animals Sacrifice their blood…[Read more] -
Obara Meji commented on the post, The Many Faces of the Yoruba Orishas and their Manifestations 2 years, 8 months ago
So refreshing to see a comment that shows the understanding of what is written. Blessings to you my dear.
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Obara Meji commented on the post, The Many Faces of the Yoruba Orishas and their Manifestations 2 years, 8 months ago
If one is to be initiated to any deity such as you who want to be initiated to water, then yes the Priestess who has the Ase of that diety must be the one to initiate you so as to pass along the power.
A priest or priestess can be an initate of more than one deity hence them having the Ase of those they are initiated to.
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Obara Meji commented on the post, The Many Faces of the Yoruba Orishas and their Manifestations 2 years, 8 months ago
You ete welcome my dear
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Obara Meji commented on the post, DREAM INTERPRETATIONS & QUESTIONS ANSWERED 2 years, 8 months ago
Dream are important, thanks fir the comment
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Obara Meji commented on the post, Spiritual Drama: How Deception Plays a Role in Spirituality 2 years, 9 months ago
Nelly, in the post I made sure to insert this bit here;
“The word deception here is not to be frowned upon, but it is a word which describes “the end justifying the means”.. The word deception here is not the literal
Meaning, read it again.Thank you for your encouraging words, however I began this blog 2011, it has been 11 years. Nothi…[Read more]
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Obara Meji commented on the post, Spiritual Drama: How Deception Plays a Role in Spirituality 2 years, 9 months ago
Respect TCanada, thank you for the comment. However the engagement on this post discourages me to write the part 2. So sad, because the part 2 was going to be filled with even more information but I am not encouraged. Why disclose so much things when people will not engage
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Obara Meji commented on the post, Spiritual Drama: How Deception Plays a Role in Spirituality 2 years, 9 months ago
YW Randy
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Obara Meji commented on the post, Spiritual Drama: How Deception Plays a Role in Spirituality 2 years, 9 months ago
Yes some examples will come in true story form in part 2. There should even be a part 3 as this knowledge and it’s understanding is quite extensive. I had you in my thoughts IB as I wrote this post.
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Obara Meji commented on the post, Spiritual Drama: How Deception Plays a Role in Spirituality 2 years, 9 months ago
Àṣẹ!
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Obara Meji commented on the post, Spiritual Drama: How Deception Plays a Role in Spirituality 2 years, 9 months ago
Hi Marj, yes there is a lot of information in this post, so reading it more than once is a good idea
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Obara Meji wrote a new post 2 years, 9 months ago
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Hi Marj, yes there is a lot of information in this post, so reading it more than once is a good idea
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Greetings Obara,
This is a good mix of all the aspects of Spirituality that spark my interest. Mi like it.
I am grateful to have been privy to this information and that this post serves to concretize the much that I have learned from you.
I observed the use of energy recently as I noticed a “spiritualist” hosting parties etc….it just seemed like energy was being harvested for another purpose. I had mentioned it to you….
I’ve seen this use of collective energy in church a lot…worship service an dem tings.
Please ensure that part 2 comes soon.
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Yes some examples will come in true story form in part 2. There should even be a part 3 as this knowledge and it’s understanding is quite extensive. I had you in my thoughts IB as I wrote this post.
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Thanks for the Info and perspective, O. “And although your Head Spirit stands beside you, it can not help you to fight the enemies it has granted access to. How you come out of this has to do with if you are able to endure the battle to get to the next phase of your life. When a child is learning to walk, the mother can not save
him from falling down.” As my enemy recently suffered spiritual assault, I needed this reminder and reinforcement. IBA , my Ori!-
Àṣẹ!
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YW Randy
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Thank you always
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I love when you drop these gem and jewel. Thank you Obara Meji for always sharing and teaching us to see things from a high level of thinking and for others it was just a quick reminder to remember.
“This is a hard one to swallow but life is not for enjoyment. Life is for learning. You only enjoy when you have learned something. But when you have settled from that learning, the mind should prepare for its next trial, whether that trial is of their own, a loved one, or something that they care about.”
Thank you again. I will be waiting for part 2. I really enjoyed these post is was very insightful, a lot of important information to know and to remember.-
Respect TCanada, thank you for the comment. However the engagement on this post discourages me to write the part 2. So sad, because the part 2 was going to be filled with even more information but I am not encouraged. Why disclose so much things when people will not engage
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Please do not be discouraged Ms. Obara to write the adjoining post to this. I know for myself I had to come back and re-read this post because there was so much to unpack. It didn’t go over our heads. The information here is deep, thought provoking and deserves dissecting. This posts literally brings me to a scene in my mind from one of those Martial Arts movies where the student learns an uncomfortable truth, then turns to the Master like “why didn’t you tell me it was going to be like this”? and the Master says “if I told you, how would you have gained the confidence to overcome”? I personally don’t look at it as deception but more so just not being told or given all the tools to solve a problem which can FEEL like deception. But ultimately this is done to produce “oil” out of a person. Like going in Self to find the resources within, Learning to trust yourself (head), and application of the lesson learned.
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Nelly, in the post I made sure to insert this bit here;
“The word deception here is not to be frowned upon, but it is a word which describes “the end justifying the means”.. The word deception here is not the literal
Meaning, read it again.Thank you for your encouraging words, however I began this blog 2011, it has been 11 years. Nothing stays the same, so I had to take it from breast feeding stage to spooning feeding. Now I am trying to have some drink from a cup, but they are unable.
Nelly the times we are in are not like 11 years ago. Imagine the Earth as a ship (as it very well may be), and the ship is ascending faster than before, the journey is rougher and tougher than before.
Who cannot stay on the ship will be flung off. This is what is happening to the world and it’s citizens now.
Reread the post, the deception written here is not at all what you know of the literal
Meaning. Read again my dear, it has a spiritual purpose that serves its purpose in human life and consciousness.
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So, true…You don’t want to waste your time or energy. Some people on this post or reading this post need to engage some more for you to know that they are here and want some more knowledge to be learn from.
I use to be one too for years. Reading and not engaging but I break out of my shell for a few years now and stop that old way of thinking. I really enjoy engaging on this blog. Some people just need to step out of their zone and just do it as Nike would say. Write something. Even if it something small or short. I am here and I want some more knowledge in my head to be taught from you, so I could grow into a better thinking person that knew things that was not taught or share with me before.
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Definitely something I need to reread but as per usual, you dropped some gems. A mom cannot save a child from falling …. Life is t for enjoyment but for learning…. It’s really a lot to think about. Thanks again for the teaching and blessings to you.
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Wow great piece, quite deep still trying to assimilate
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Obara Meji commented on the post, The Gifts We Receive in Spiritual Suffering — My Journal of Channeled Messages of 1999 2 years, 9 months ago
Yes, but I have never heard it described as “chattering in a crowded restaurant” before, which is an excellent description. I use to tell people that it sounded like a chorus. Instead of people singing all at once it sounded as if many people were speaking at the same time. On way to their spiritual awakening, some people will hear these cha…[Read more]
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Obara Meji commented on the post, The Gifts We Receive in Spiritual Suffering — My Journal of Channeled Messages of 1999 2 years, 10 months ago
Salam Hamyfat, thank you
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Give thx for the wisdom Iya. I appreciate the nuanced understanding which you convey.
You ete welcome my dear
Greetings Obara Meji,
Well done . Though you say you are holding back, in this time, you will no longer be able to write without going deep .
The wisdom embedded in this post is beautiful. I loved the use of energy and the expressions of gender to clarify common misunderstandings of deities and spiritual practices.
As I read, I was also able to apply the concepts you explained to Christianity and Islam…without questioning validity of a religion or spiritual practice, it is evident that the further west it travelled, the focus and interpretation took more form than energy.
In this time, with easy access to inFORMation, everybody knows everything and results become short-lived because of ignorance and dilution. There are also challenges faced by those who seek to learn authentically and the truth becomes exclusive and expensive to access.
There’s so much more to unravel.
However, I am grateful for your willingness to share your light, wisdom and experiences with us freely.
Blessings
So refreshing to see a comment that shows the understanding of what is written. Blessings to you my dear.
Thank you Obara meji, may the forces of the universe strengthen and bless you.please I want to ask must I be initiated by a priest or priestess to the water Goddess. I’m from the eastern part of Nigeria. Secondly I had a dream where I was given money, afterwards I went to an occasion and was trying to collect a souvenir,then an old man asked me to forget about the souvenir and come help him sweep his compound. Please what does helping him sweep signify. Thank you
If one is to be initiated to any deity such as you who want to be initiated to water, then yes the Priestess who has the Ase of that diety must be the one to initiate you so as to pass along the power.
A priest or priestess can be an initate of more than one deity hence them having the Ase of those they are initiated to.
The dream is a private message so I will not share my insight to it publicly although you seem not to mind since you asked ot here.
Blessings to you and yours
Thank you very much for your reply, I don’t mind you sharing your insight to my dream. Light and love to you
There is hard work in the way for you my dear, however it will yield profitable if you persevere.
Remember labour is not always physical. The hardest work most often is mental labour! Stress?
Ok, When a deity begins to take on images and depictions, that expression of the deity is more of exalted man than god. The more form it is, the more it takes on image, the less that it is a pure beam of light and the more it begins to act as how anything would living within our dense human environment.
I know that the orishas take on different personality, so it can be easier for the human mind to comprehend, but I wanted to know how do we humans keep the energy in their highest and purest vibration.
This is a very good question, let me try to do justice to it.
Here in Africa our Ifá/Orisha traditional practice is a practice of sacrifice. I am not shy to tell you that most often than not, blood is included in the sacrifice. Why should I be shy to tell you this when many of you or your families eat meat, those animals Sacrifice their blood for your sustenance.
However in other places in the world these same sacrifices are done and are done without the use of blood to the same deities we venerate but are called by different names.
In the Hindu tradition there is a goddess called
Lakshmi, this goddess is a river goddess and has characteristic traits of our Osun here in Africa. I am not sure if blood is given to her secretly in that practice but I have never heard of it, however our osun, when consulted, to solve a problem for someone, may ask for a woman fowl or guinea or something else.
Us Africans are looked upon as barbaric because we will ring the fowls neck off and give the blood to Osun.
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While when worshiping Lakshmi, they will spray perfumes and give fruits and flowers. This seems safe and so people will gravitate to this type of ritual.
The Africans however are keeping the purity of the deity in the way they feed its essence because blood is life.
When a child is born, it comes from the mother’s womb with blood. Without blood there is no life.
So what you see as barbaric among the Africans in their veneration of spirit is true to form pure as is creation.
We keep the purity of our deities by venerating them, as close as we can to nature and the natural life of living, this needs more explanation though.
There is more to this answer, but my enemy is tired I have been working all day.
Thank you! I appreciate you answering. ❤
Just have to say, Wow… This post is higher level thinking and reading all together. Thank you Obara Meji for breaking things down for this human mind to learn to understand. This is a must read again because a lot of important information regarding the Yemoja or Yemaya to be learn here. I really enjoy and learn a lot when you tell your story and write it. I just have to say Thank you because you put so much into your writing for us to learn and have a better understanding of things.
Thank you my dear
The help is supposed to be perfect, I’m glad for that word unscrambler
Aboru boye teacha! Great Post and thank you for your wisdom, can I just say for me some of these literal meanings helped me to process and come to some kind of understanding until I knew better as you said humans minds are limited so we try to process by adding literal meanings whichi know is wrong. I have a question in the world of dreams when a deity appears as a gender does this also have a meaning ? because from what I understand energy is male and female so why appears as a gender ?
We are living is a material world, a place that is chaotic. A deity will appear to us any how they choose. As l said it is how the human being limited brain process what they have encountered.
In the human way of understanding the human understand genders, man and woman.
If a bath tub appears to a human in the dream or a tire and claim to be Jesus or God or an archangel, persons would be befuddled. However the Christian Bible said God appeared to Moses as a burning Bush.
Is the Christian God a burning bush? We can assume it as such according to Moses and the story the Bible told. However that may have been how that divine super being (God) manifested to lower intelligence here on this planet .
Ahhhh I understand now, but if the world of dreams Communicate via symbols doesn’t the gender it appears as have a meaning that’s my question? The reason why I ask is this lool it may sound funny to you but for me I understood with the lil knowledge I have about Interpretation, before i knew it myself that I was pregnant a deity would appear in different ways shape or Form and I would know I was pregnant and what child I am to have. Do not be Offended teacher am just learning.
I thank you very much for this comment and your story. I would like to learn more about your Dinis traditional practice. All traditional practice are the same and are ine, culture, language and environmental may create the variant but all are but ONE.
There is a practice in Igbo land that is very similar to what we call Zion in our Jamaican culture. In their culture, imagery, colors and then some.
Spirit is everything and everything is Spirit. Spirit is plural like saying the word people. However not everything or everyone is plugged into spirit. In other words not everyone is attuned or conscious of Spirit of whatever is.
This is too intricate to detail in a commnet, when the minds here have grown, I will write a post or teach a class on this . Thanks once again my brother!
Thanks for breaking down this subject O! Also appreciate your breakdown of the practice of sacrifice in your response to Toy. Can’t discuss Orishas without referencing veneration. In your follow-up post on Orishas, can you please shed light on what it means when multiple Orishas choose an IFA initiate?