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This Thursday October 9th 2014 in our book club discussion Kiabublez has provided us with the material. She will be the one to moderate on the topic. The link for subject is posted below, Kia has also written an introduction to the post is in support of the videos provided. We thank Lalibela Nile for his contribution to book club night last night, his second contributory effort to our book club and as usual he did a job well done on a very controversial topic, I apologize for not being able to interact as much, I was involved in my work very deeply.  Book Club begins @ 8pm, please make an effort to be here, knowledge is power, let us learn together.

Greetings everyone. Bless up Obara n family, peepers. I have watched these two videos with Dr. Frances Cress Welsing. She speaks about race and how Blacks are depicted in our society. Dr. Welsing has written a book titled The Isis Papers: The Keys to the Colors, which analyzes the system of racism/white supremacy. Dr. Welsing states that white supremacy exists as a behavioral reaction to the genetic recessive state of the white race. She believes that the white race knows subconsciously they are the minority. She gives her viewpoint on Donahue. Yes, Donahue lol Who remembers watching him in the 80s and 90s. Anywho…what is racism to you and have you ever experienced it? Do you think humans are afraid to discuss racism? What are your thoughts on the first woman being Black? I have included a statement from Dr. Cress Welsing on the genetic mutation of white people, share your perspective?  

“First of all, Black people were the first people on the planet. Everybody, including White people, come from Black people. White people are a genetic mutation or a genetic deficiency state which is what causes skin to be White. Now, the article doesn’t talk about White skin in those terms. It talks about people migrating north and therefore losing color. I maintain that’s not at all what happened. They lost the color through a genetic mutation to albinism, which genetics defines as a genetic deficiency state and they were forced out of Africa into Europe. Scientists who classify themselves as White don’t want to say this. You can’t simultaneously think White is superior and then say that White is a genetic deficiency state.” Dr. Frances Cress Welsing.

Next she discusses the way Blacks are depicted on Scandal and other tv/movies. I can truly say I only watched Scandal once and while I love Kerry Washington I do not like the character she plays on Scandal. She is a brilliant actress but the jump off role…it doan look good! It don’t look good!

Please share your thoughts on these videos.

http://youtu.be/SKumU_V5s70 

http://youtu.be/o8Em4m1eQ8s

 

 

 

 

 

 

Obara Meji

Obara Meji is a spiritualist, Ifa-Orisa practitioner, and teacher of metaphysics. Since 2011 she has used her online platform to share her personal experiences to those seeking answers about spirituality. Her teachings will expand into short stories, novels, and public speaking to continue her mission of bringing enlightenment to the world.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2787211/Dallas-hospital-insists-Ebola-victim-best-care-regardless-nationality-ability-pay-family-claim-treated-badly-poor-black-man.html

I disagree with the headline wholeheartedly. For one, the doctors would have loved to publish their participation and findings in the Journal of Medicine and other publications. See these are the problems I have with race relations. People will corrupt the real issues by broad brushing everything.

I don’t believe they caused this man to die purposely; not even Mr. Duncan could tell how long he contracted the illness, so estimation comes into play base on the life cycle of those infected. The only point of reference is when he gave aid to the pregnant woman who died, before he came to the states. Given the fact that he is from a hot spot .he could have contracted the virus at any given time (again estimation base on the life duration of those infected). Ebola may even function like HIV/AIDS where the host outlives those that they infected.

WORST! Jessie Jackson is on the podium. Let it not be a secret I can’t stand the man, I believe he aided and abetted in the death of MLK.

Ty
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Ty

Me think a me one can’t stand him…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Aww thank yu ES fambo ♥bless up♥ love n light night night ladies

Cami
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Cami

I’m going to re-wet and set me hair, go under the dryer for nearly 2hrs.

Kia Thumbs up on moderating. To all a good night, and have a good end of week day.

Yazzy, no work to hard…lololololllll love you said speed.

NuNu puss…missing you. Ty hail up Bro.

Obara, love you.

Ty
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Ty

I am off to bed too…thanks for wonderful discussion

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Im so glad yu all joined me tonight. Thank yu for sharing. The session was very informative n we got a chance to hear others perspectives. If unno eva kno how mi did fret all week oooo

Ty
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Ty

Excellent job Kia, I look forward to more topics from you…

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Professora Kia, thank so much for moderating tonight. You did well as expected. There was never a need to worry sweetie… it’s us!

Cami
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Cami

You were fretting? lol As long as race topics aren’t set on militant view points I can deal.

Toy
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You did great Kia

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Toy mi sehhhhhh lol u see his latest movie no good deed? Di whole movie mi lust afta di killa loool Obara ano di only one wid no hambition
Cami yes sex n brains in any man is sexy red, black, yellow, white, purple or green

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Thanks ladies. I’m in and out that’s why my responses are delayed. Wuk a kill mi

Cami
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Cami

Be busy but don’t let it kill you…Slavery over.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Cami, the only SLAVERY that’s gonna kill me is my passion. I’ll be a SLAVE to that anyday. Everyone is a slave to something… maybe you’ve mistaken slavery, in this case, with ambition….

Cami
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Cami

Nah, yu a associate the phrase wrong. Ambition is one thing, killing yourself through occupational stress isn’t being ambitious but rather akin to “slave labor”, Ergo the phrase slavery.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Ty what if that was willie lynch life path to be a wicked oppressor? He may not come back as a slave

Cami
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Cami

Him come back as George Bush, lolol or Idi Amin.

Ty
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Ty

Lol

Yazzy
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Yazzy

So what are your thoughts with interracial dating/marriage? And what happens then? Should the oppressed race have expectations of an apology? Would you not date/marry outside of your race?

Ty
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Ty

As long as it is based on love, no probs…love is love…

Cami
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Cami

Love is love yes, but for me brains and sex must be inclusive, lololllllllllllll

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Yazzy i love a dark chocolate man anybody see idris elba work out video today wooooiiiee ok come back kia lool its who yu love. Who gives yu all that yu need or who completes yu…ive had a couple dates with caucasians. They were human n we got along…

Toy
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What you bring him up for Kia… He puts on my face. Man, I love a dark chocolate man….

Cami
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Cami

I had my share too and the sex was good which disproves that size myth and I can tell you that they financially assisted me and help to build on my cognizant skills. On top of it all I have a sister whose mother is French Canadian so I’ll take insult to certain things.

Cami
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Cami

Mr. Dark Chocolate has to be intelligent and not feed into no negative stereotype; black males do insert themselves into the stereotypes.

Ty
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Ty

Not sure I feel sorry for him…

Toy
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I was going to write the same thing… He is too nuff.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Ty i agree. Him prize paid off…dat him should memba now kmrt

Cami
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Cami

I’ve always believe OJ cockity to the fact that he didn’t do the killing. I think his son did the killing (Physic similar to his dad and it’s reported that he loathed his step mom).

What he’s in jail for is just a matter of Kwaky get catch by him shirt.

Obara Meji
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Agreed on both comments Cami

Toy
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Lmao @Oj…

Cami
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Cami

Break me a come right back.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Haha Cami seh psalms nuh belong ina bible. Yu know a it alone i read n can understand. Yazzy this discussion should be able to discussed without anger. #AgreeTodisagree no one has to agree but respect others thoughts

Cami
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Cami

The link I posted is one that I keep challenging blacks to read and I never get a feed back. My man introduced me to it and I thank him for it. That a lone makes me not having to hear no other argument because it is absolutely clear that it is from this letter/speech that the Racist Institutions are modeled on.

Ty
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Ty

Cami I was just reading it and it is the road map for our mis treatment…Lawd a disgusted …what a sick set a people…

Cami
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Cami

It is the blue print, down to the last “i” dotted and “t” cross.

Ty
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Ty

No worry Cami, he has to come back a few times…I am sure he ended up being a slave once too….

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Ive read the willie lynch letters Cami it rings true to me as well. While some say it is fake, i believe it is real n was implemented from the very start. It has yet to be broken as proven by the infighting of blacks. Im dark, she light, im outside, she inside but massa a fock all a wi.

Toy
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Exactly!

Cami
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Cami

NO a thing fake about it…he was a planter in Jamaica as well.

Ty
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Ty

Cami, after reading this, a glad the maroons fought…if only Cudjoe did follow Nanny…

Cami
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Cami

Ego.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

I don’t know how others will digest this.. but I really hate discussing race at this point. I feel the same way about it as I do about the wars in the middle east… it never ends and becomes way too radical and is unhealthy.

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Good night Professora Kia. Good night sweeties. I’m always late plz pardon.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Night Yazzy yaz good to see yu 😀

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Great to see ya Kia boo! A mash mi mash up mek yuh cudnt find me

Cami
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Cami

Yazzy…come come contribute. Good fi see yu…lol

Yazzy
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Hey Cami Cam. Great to see ya mami.

My two cents. Most might say I’m naive but why can’t we just all get along?? And if we cant, why can’t we just live our lives the way we choose to. I know it’s ridiculous to even say “live how we choose to” since the way we as Africans are living now, we weren’t afforded that choice. I am outraged but I don’t want it to consume me. I’m not rolling over and taking it like a stiff but it’s so unhealthy to live in the shadows of race although we wake up and breath it each day but I prefer to be happy.

Toy
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Hey Yazzy

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Hey toy honey!!! Good night love

Cami
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Cami

Yazzy, I get you because I’m not big on the conversation with some black people. Some have a way of wanting to be the one with all the right points and making you feel like you not black enough for the conversation…lol

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Dr welsing states that movies like 12 years a slave n django make ppl say aww look how blacks were treated years ago during slavery. But what about how blacks are treated now? Has slavery completely disappeared?

Ty
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Ty

Slavery still here just in different forms..still have lynching of black males….unequal pay….raping and mistreatment of black women…and the list goes on…

Cami
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Slavery still flourishes under religion, sex, charity and capitalism. Present day its done to children (same method you own selling you) in Africa, China and India. Sometimes in Haiti and Latin America…Today it’s recognize as Human smuggling.

Ty
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Ty

And organ harvesting too…

Cami
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Cami

Elaborate: Adults are more enslaved in the sex industries and garment factories.

Cami
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Cami

Yes Ty.

Ty
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Ty

As Selassie say and bob retell…” Until the philosophy that holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited, and abandoned, everywhere is war”

Ty
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Ty

My little one stated it best, only one race human…….everything else is an animal…

Ty
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Ty

Hey everyone, late but here …

Kia good one…great job moderating…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Night Ty thank u

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Hey toy u right on time mama Cami lol thats a good question. It could be. I read a boook cant memba the name (Obara recommended)that talks about how the mutation started. It seems the original man traveled n due to climates the body mutated to fit. At least thats what i percieved from the book.

Cami
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Cami

That is the science from observation and more truthful. The migration wasn’t a one time thing. It took thousands of years and over that time homosapians met others and breed plus adopt according to climate.

The Creator didn’t make blacks alone.

Cami
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Cami

Welsing isn’t talking about things that are strange or new, but I just don’t deal in that school of thought. If it isn’t blacks slinging is whites slinging. I need a new world without all this nit picking.

White racist had an issue with the cereal commercial and here comes a black person having the same issues…I had none. The man on the couch wasn’t “a overweight black man”, he was a fit and sexy black man.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

i never even looked at the cheerios commercial like that either. I care not who one marries. Love has no boundries

Cami
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Cami

That’s why people like Wesling is negative to uneducated minds.

Toy
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Yeah I do agree Cam…my opinion… is things will not change if black people don’t unite together.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

I dont want anyone to feel that i hate white pplor any other nationality. This is a topic that ive notice all ppl avoid. Its something that needs to be discussed n resolved by all. We are divided as a nation so why not discuss. Blacks we are not the minority. Nothing is wrong with us lol for the most part. Dr Welsing states that the system is set up to inferioze blacks n that makes our gene pool look flawed or off.

Toy
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Well I do think we are the minority now with all these Mexicans taking over

Cami
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Cami

The system set like that and people fall into it. My reason why? because they subscribe to Religion. Christians and Muslims corrupt minds.

Toy
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I watched I do think that Dr made some valid points, It could be possibility that there was be a mutation why there is white skin

Cami
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Cami

Has for Scandal…the oliva character is that of Judy Smith with exception to the sexual context which is one of the booster that makes people watch the show.

Toy
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Yeah I never heard that about asians either, but you know some asian people have tan skin and they don’t age as bad as white people.

Toy
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Kia sorry I am late. I am here

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Understood. No one wants to be offspring of the monkey. I also think sum white ppl do not want to agree with the mutation theory. As it maybe hard to swallow.

Cami
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Cami

Question: What about the Chinese and Japanese. All this black and white but I never heard any reference to that set of people. Are they a “mutation”?

Cami
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Cami

For starters I believe in the migration theory and like the monkey and human connection if I were Caucasian I would take offense to the mutation theory, same as I take offense to any relations of black people and monkeys.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

No worries Cam cam glad to see yu. Safe travels Nunu n anyone else traveling tonight.
Cami how did yu percieve the videos n dr welsings view on white supermacy

Cami
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Cami

Sorry Kia…I was washing out my DC.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Helloooo good night everyone peace n blessings to yu n urs. Hope yu all enjoyed Dr. Welsings videos.

Obara Meji
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Hey Kia, Nunu expresses her apologies, she travelled, she says if she gets the opportunity she will give a quick hellyer

I am here, just tied up doing sacrifice soon give my full attention

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Ok i understand. I are ere

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez

Good morning Obara Yazzy n Nile I hope all get a chance to watch the videos n I’ll see yu Thurs!

Lalibela A Nile (@Lalibela_Nile)
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This is going to be a winner!!!

Yazzy
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Yazzy

Kia boooo! I see you girl. Get ya moderating on. Lol…

I’ve already watched the first vid and I have to admit I’m new to Dr. Cress Welsing and her thesis and books. I have a lot to learn…

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