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This Thursday October 9th 2014 in our book club discussion Kiabublez has provided us with the material. She will be the one to moderate on the topic. The link for subject is posted below, Kia has also written an introduction to the post is in support of the videos provided. We thank Lalibela Nile for his contribution to book club night last night, his second contributory effort to our book club and as usual he did a job well done on a very controversial topic, I apologize for not being able to interact as much, I was involved in my work very deeply.  Book Club begins @ 8pm, please make an effort to be here, knowledge is power, let us learn together.

Greetings everyone. Bless up Obara n family, peepers. I have watched these two videos with Dr. Frances Cress Welsing. She speaks about race and how Blacks are depicted in our society. Dr. Welsing has written a book titled The Isis Papers: The Keys to the Colors, which analyzes the system of racism/white supremacy. Dr. Welsing states that white supremacy exists as a behavioral reaction to the genetic recessive state of the white race. She believes that the white race knows subconsciously they are the minority. She gives her viewpoint on Donahue. Yes, Donahue lol Who remembers watching him in the 80s and 90s. Anywho…what is racism to you and have you ever experienced it? Do you think humans are afraid to discuss racism? What are your thoughts on the first woman being Black? I have included a statement from Dr. Cress Welsing on the genetic mutation of white people, share your perspective?  

“First of all, Black people were the first people on the planet. Everybody, including White people, come from Black people. White people are a genetic mutation or a genetic deficiency state which is what causes skin to be White. Now, the article doesn’t talk about White skin in those terms. It talks about people migrating north and therefore losing color. I maintain that’s not at all what happened. They lost the color through a genetic mutation to albinism, which genetics defines as a genetic deficiency state and they were forced out of Africa into Europe. Scientists who classify themselves as White don’t want to say this. You can’t simultaneously think White is superior and then say that White is a genetic deficiency state.” Dr. Frances Cress Welsing.

Next she discusses the way Blacks are depicted on Scandal and other tv/movies. I can truly say I only watched Scandal once and while I love Kerry Washington I do not like the character she plays on Scandal. She is a brilliant actress but the jump off role…it doan look good! It don’t look good!

Please share your thoughts on these videos.

https://youtu.be/SKumU_V5s70 

https://youtu.be/o8Em4m1eQ8s

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Cami
10 years ago

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2787211/Dallas-hospital-insists-Ebola-victim-best-care-regardless-nationality-ability-pay-family-claim-treated-badly-poor-black-man.html I disagree with the headline wholeheartedly. For one, the doctors would have loved to publish their participation and findings in the Journal of Medicine and other publications. See these are the problems I have with race relations. People will corrupt the real issues by broad brushing everything. I don’t believe they caused this man to die purposely; not even Mr. Duncan could tell how long he contracted the illness, so estimation comes into play base on the life cycle of those infected. The only point of reference is when he gave aid to the pregnant woman who died, before… Read more »

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Me think a me one can’t stand him…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Aww thank yu ES fambo ♥bless up♥ love n light night night ladies

Cami
10 years ago

I’m going to re-wet and set me hair, go under the dryer for nearly 2hrs.

Kia Thumbs up on moderating. To all a good night, and have a good end of week day.

Yazzy, no work to hard…lololololllll love you said speed.

NuNu puss…missing you. Ty hail up Bro.

Obara, love you.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

I am off to bed too…thanks for wonderful discussion

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Im so glad yu all joined me tonight. Thank yu for sharing. The session was very informative n we got a chance to hear others perspectives. If unno eva kno how mi did fret all week oooo

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Excellent job Kia, I look forward to more topics from you…

Yazzy
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Yazzy
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Professora Kia, thank so much for moderating tonight. You did well as expected. There was never a need to worry sweetie… it’s us!

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

You were fretting? lol As long as race topics aren’t set on militant view points I can deal.

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

You did great Kia

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Toy mi sehhhhhh lol u see his latest movie no good deed? Di whole movie mi lust afta di killa loool Obara ano di only one wid no hambition
Cami yes sex n brains in any man is sexy red, black, yellow, white, purple or green

Yazzy
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Yazzy
10 years ago

Thanks ladies. I’m in and out that’s why my responses are delayed. Wuk a kill mi

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Be busy but don’t let it kill you…Slavery over.

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Yazzy
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Cami, the only SLAVERY that’s gonna kill me is my passion. I’ll be a SLAVE to that anyday. Everyone is a slave to something… maybe you’ve mistaken slavery, in this case, with ambition….

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Nah, yu a associate the phrase wrong. Ambition is one thing, killing yourself through occupational stress isn’t being ambitious but rather akin to “slave labor”, Ergo the phrase slavery.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Ty what if that was willie lynch life path to be a wicked oppressor? He may not come back as a slave

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Him come back as George Bush, lolol or Idi Amin.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Lol

Yazzy
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Yazzy
10 years ago

So what are your thoughts with interracial dating/marriage? And what happens then? Should the oppressed race have expectations of an apology? Would you not date/marry outside of your race?

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

As long as it is based on love, no probs…love is love…

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Love is love yes, but for me brains and sex must be inclusive, lololllllllllllll

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Yazzy i love a dark chocolate man anybody see idris elba work out video today wooooiiiee ok come back kia lool its who yu love. Who gives yu all that yu need or who completes yu…ive had a couple dates with caucasians. They were human n we got along…

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

What you bring him up for Kia… He puts on my face. Man, I love a dark chocolate man….

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

I had my share too and the sex was good which disproves that size myth and I can tell you that they financially assisted me and help to build on my cognizant skills. On top of it all I have a sister whose mother is French Canadian so I’ll take insult to certain things.

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Mr. Dark Chocolate has to be intelligent and not feed into no negative stereotype; black males do insert themselves into the stereotypes.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Mi mummy classy…just did this…no sah…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

mi seet loool my version say quake same thing shake quake smh

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago

Not sure I feel sorry for him…

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  Ty

I was going to write the same thing… He is too nuff.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Ty i agree. Him prize paid off…dat him should memba now kmrt

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Ty

I’ve always believe OJ cockity to the fact that he didn’t do the killing. I think his son did the killing (Physic similar to his dad and it’s reported that he loathed his step mom).

What he’s in jail for is just a matter of Kwaky get catch by him shirt.

Obara Meji
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10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Agreed on both comments Cami

toy7318
10 years ago

Lmao @Oj…

Cami
10 years ago

Break me a come right back.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Haha Cami seh psalms nuh belong ina bible. Yu know a it alone i read n can understand. Yazzy this discussion should be able to discussed without anger. #AgreeTodisagree no one has to agree but respect others thoughts

Cami
10 years ago

The link I posted is one that I keep challenging blacks to read and I never get a feed back. My man introduced me to it and I thank him for it. That a lone makes me not having to hear no other argument because it is absolutely clear that it is from this letter/speech that the Racist Institutions are modeled on.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Cami I was just reading it and it is the road map for our mis treatment…Lawd a disgusted …what a sick set a people…

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Ty

It is the blue print, down to the last “i” dotted and “t” cross.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

No worry Cami, he has to come back a few times…I am sure he ended up being a slave once too….

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Ive read the willie lynch letters Cami it rings true to me as well. While some say it is fake, i believe it is real n was implemented from the very start. It has yet to be broken as proven by the infighting of blacks. Im dark, she light, im outside, she inside but massa a fock all a wi.

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Exactly!

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

NO a thing fake about it…he was a planter in Jamaica as well.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Cami, after reading this, a glad the maroons fought…if only Cudjoe did follow Nanny…

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Ego.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

We must wake up, unite, and love ourselves…

Yazzy
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Yazzy
10 years ago

I don’t know how others will digest this.. but I really hate discussing race at this point. I feel the same way about it as I do about the wars in the middle east… it never ends and becomes way too radical and is unhealthy.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Bwoy the glove never fit but dem try try try until it cut to fit. Oj n aids!? i missed thst one…one a di kardadhians is allegedly his lovechild. When i saw the side by side pic woooiie lool

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Dem pass ridiculous.

The Black slaves after receiving this indoctrination shall carry on and will become self-refueling and self-generating for HUNDREDS of years, maybe THOUSANDS. Don’t forget, you must pitch the OLD black male vs. the YOUNG black male, and the YOUNG black male against the OLD black male. You must use the DARK skin slaves vs. the LIGHT skin slaves, and the LIGHT skin slaves vs. the DARK skin slaves.

http://www.iupui.edu/~blacksu/PDF%20Documents/Documents/WillieLynchLetter.pdf

Yazzy
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Yazzy
10 years ago

Good night Professora Kia. Good night sweeties. I’m always late plz pardon.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Night Yazzy yaz good to see yu 😀

Yazzy
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Yazzy
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Great to see ya Kia boo! A mash mi mash up mek yuh cudnt find me

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Yazzy…come come contribute. Good fi see yu…lol

Yazzy
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Yazzy
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Hey Cami Cam. Great to see ya mami. My two cents. Most might say I’m naive but why can’t we just all get along?? And if we cant, why can’t we just live our lives the way we choose to. I know it’s ridiculous to even say “live how we choose to” since the way we as Africans are living now, we weren’t afforded that choice. I am outraged but I don’t want it to consume me. I’m not rolling over and taking it like a stiff but it’s so unhealthy to live in the shadows of race although we… Read more »

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Hey Yazzy

Yazzy
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Yazzy
10 years ago
Reply to  toy7318

Hey toy honey!!! Good night love

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  toy7318

Yazzy, I get you because I’m not big on the conversation with some black people. Some have a way of wanting to be the one with all the right points and making you feel like you not black enough for the conversation…lol

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

He cannot walk in Khalid Mohammed line…ever…

Iba Khalid Mohammed…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

I couldnt help to laugh at Donahue lol i have to watch that one with Khalid

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Boom Obara…

As I stated to a white woman today… The days of quoting from the bible, ” cleanse me with hyssop and make as white as snow ” done

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

great point Obara. Religion is enslaving blacks. All must see the good in themselves. Afraid to honor ur ancestors but the first pic in the house does not look like any relation to them. Smh

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

I love Psalms and it don’t belong in the bible! dem thief it put in there.

No book that is use to command the death and oppression of human beings, for centuries can be my go to…not one bit!

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Dr welsing states that movies like 12 years a slave n django make ppl say aww look how blacks were treated years ago during slavery. But what about how blacks are treated now? Has slavery completely disappeared?

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Slavery still here just in different forms..still have lynching of black males….unequal pay….raping and mistreatment of black women…and the list goes on…

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Slavery still flourishes under religion, sex, charity and capitalism. Present day its done to children (same method you own selling you) in Africa, China and India. Sometimes in Haiti and Latin America…Today it’s recognize as Human smuggling.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

And organ harvesting too…

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Elaborate: Adults are more enslaved in the sex industries and garment factories.

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Yes Ty.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago

As Selassie say and bob retell…” Until the philosophy that holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited, and abandoned, everywhere is war”

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Lol…

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Grung

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Yu start! lolol

TY, whey me bro deh? no mind cause if him come de board done because we all ago reach a grung tonight.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago

My little one stated it best, only one race human…….everything else is an animal…

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

And that if memory serves me well was a division of four with the dumbest being the cavemen (Neantherdals), lol Which unfortunately for the migrants coming and spreading out from the South they may have met the last of this breed and had a few DNA minglings with them hence our big headed, broad forhead EuroAsians.

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

There is no race, so it would only be nationalities, right.

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  toy7318

Toy, humans coined the term race because of land and resource divisions. Once flags and borders came into play the differences came as well.

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  toy7318

Ok Cam, I got it.

Ty
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Ty
10 years ago

Hey everyone, late but here …

Kia good one…great job moderating…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
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Night Ty thank u

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Hey toy u right on time mama Cami lol thats a good question. It could be. I read a boook cant memba the name (Obara recommended)that talks about how the mutation started. It seems the original man traveled n due to climates the body mutated to fit. At least thats what i percieved from the book.

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

That is the science from observation and more truthful. The migration wasn’t a one time thing. It took thousands of years and over that time homosapians met others and breed plus adopt according to climate.

The Creator didn’t make blacks alone.

Cami
10 years ago

Welsing isn’t talking about things that are strange or new, but I just don’t deal in that school of thought. If it isn’t blacks slinging is whites slinging. I need a new world without all this nit picking.

White racist had an issue with the cereal commercial and here comes a black person having the same issues…I had none. The man on the couch wasn’t “a overweight black man”, he was a fit and sexy black man.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

i never even looked at the cheerios commercial like that either. I care not who one marries. Love has no boundries

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

That’s why people like Wesling is negative to uneducated minds.

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Yeah I do agree Cam…my opinion… is things will not change if black people don’t unite together.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Seetdeh!!!

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

…and that is the school of thoughts that I prescribe to. Racist anthropologist tried to muddy the field but there is no deny the method of true science…OBSERVATION.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

I dont want anyone to feel that i hate white pplor any other nationality. This is a topic that ive notice all ppl avoid. Its something that needs to be discussed n resolved by all. We are divided as a nation so why not discuss. Blacks we are not the minority. Nothing is wrong with us lol for the most part. Dr Welsing states that the system is set up to inferioze blacks n that makes our gene pool look flawed or off.

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Well I do think we are the minority now with all these Mexicans taking over

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

The system set like that and people fall into it. My reason why? because they subscribe to Religion. Christians and Muslims corrupt minds.

toy7318
10 years ago

I watched I do think that Dr made some valid points, It could be possibility that there was be a mutation why there is white skin

Cami
10 years ago

Has for Scandal…the oliva character is that of Judy Smith with exception to the sexual context which is one of the booster that makes people watch the show.

toy7318
10 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Yeah I never heard that about asians either, but you know some asian people have tan skin and they don’t age as bad as white people.

toy7318
10 years ago

Kia sorry I am late. I am here

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Understood. No one wants to be offspring of the monkey. I also think sum white ppl do not want to agree with the mutation theory. As it maybe hard to swallow.

Cami
10 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Question: What about the Chinese and Japanese. All this black and white but I never heard any reference to that set of people. Are they a “mutation”?

Cami
10 years ago

For starters I believe in the migration theory and like the monkey and human connection if I were Caucasian I would take offense to the mutation theory, same as I take offense to any relations of black people and monkeys.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

No worries Cam cam glad to see yu. Safe travels Nunu n anyone else traveling tonight.
Cami how did yu percieve the videos n dr welsings view on white supermacy

Cami
10 years ago

Sorry Kia…I was washing out my DC.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Helloooo good night everyone peace n blessings to yu n urs. Hope yu all enjoyed Dr. Welsings videos.

Obara Meji
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10 years ago
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Hey Kia, Nunu expresses her apologies, she travelled, she says if she gets the opportunity she will give a quick hellyer

I am here, just tied up doing sacrifice soon give my full attention

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Ok i understand. I are ere

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
10 years ago

Good morning Obara Yazzy n Nile I hope all get a chance to watch the videos n I’ll see yu Thurs!

Lalibela A Nile (@Lalibela_Nile)
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This is going to be a winner!!!

Yazzy
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Yazzy
10 years ago

Kia boooo! I see you girl. Get ya moderating on. Lol…

I’ve already watched the first vid and I have to admit I’m new to Dr. Cress Welsing and her thesis and books. I have a lot to learn…

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