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This Thursday November 20th, 2014 will be our book club discussion I Obara Meji have provided the material which you will find the below. Ty  moderated our last two discussions and as usual did an excellent job, which was on the wonderful benefits of Apple Cider Vinegar, and we thank her a whole lot. I must say it was informative and it was fun! We all enjoyed it,well done Ty, thank you very much. It is unfortunate that I did not see my regulars to show support, but it is what it is, nuff love same way. Book Club begins @ 8pm, please make an effort to be here, knowledge is power, let us learn together.

 

From the works of Rudolf Steiner…..Enlightenment

Enlightenment proceeds from very simple processes. Here, too, it is a matter of developing certain feelings and thoughts which slumber in every human being and must be awakened. It is only when these simple processes are carried out with unfailing patience, continuously and conscientiously, that they can lead to the perception of the inner light-forms. The first step is taken by observing different natural objects in a particular way; for instance, a transparent and beautifully formed stone (a crystal), a plant, and an animal. The student should endeavor, at first, to direct his whole attention to a comparison of the stone with the animal in the following manner. The thoughts here mentioned should pass through his soul accompanied by vivid feelings, and no other thought, no other feeling, must mingle with them and disturb what should be an intensely attentive observation. The student says to himself: “The stone has a form; the animal also has a form. The stone remains motionless in its place. The animal changes its place. It is instinct (desire) which causes the animal to change its place. Instincts, too, are served by the form of the animal. Its organs and limbs are fashioned in accordance with these instincts. The form of the stone is not fashioned in accordance with desires, but in accordance with desireless force.” (The fact here mentioned, in its bearing on the contemplation of crystals, is in many ways distorted by those who have only heard of it in an outward, exoteric manner, and in this way such practices as crystal-gazing have their origin. Such manipulations are based on a misunderstanding. They have been described in many books, but they never form the subject of genuine esoteric teaching.)

 

By sinking deeply into such thoughts, and while doing so, observing the stone and the animal with rapt attention, there arise in the soul two quite separate kinds of feelings. From the stone there flows into the soul the one kind of feeling, and from the animal the other kind. The attempt will probably not succeed at first, but little by little, with genuine and patient practice, these feelings ensue. Only, this exercise must be practiced over and over again. At first the feelings are only present as long as the observation lasts. Later on they continue, and then they grow to something which remains living in the soul. The student has then but to reflect, and both feelings will always arise, even without the contemplation of an external object. Out of these feelings and the thoughts that are bound up with them, the organs of clairvoyance are formed. If the plant should then be included in this observation, it will be noticed that the feeling flowing from it lies between the feelings derived from the stone and the animal, in both quality and degree. The organs thus formed are spiritual eyes. The students gradually learns, by their means, to see something like soul and spirit colors. The spiritual world with its lines and figures remains dark as long as he has only attained what has been described as preparation; through enlightenment this world becomes light. Here it must also be noted that the words “dark” and “light,” as well as the other expressions used, only approximately describe what is meant. This cannot be otherwise if ordinary language is used, for this language was created to suit physical conditions. Spiritual science describes that which, for clairvoyant organs, flows from the stone, as blue, or blue-red; and that which is felt as coming from the animal as red or red-yellow. In reality, colors of a spiritual kind are seen. The color proceeding the plant is green which little by little turns into a light ethereal pink. The plant is actually that product of nature which in higher worlds resembles, in certain respects, its constitution in the physical world. The same does not apply to the stone and the animal. It must now be clearly understood that the above-mentioned colors only represent the principal shades in the stone, plant and animal kingdom. In reality, all possible intermediate shades are present. Every stone, every plant, every animal has its own particular shade of color. In addition to these there are also the beings of the higher worlds who never incarnate physically, but who have their colors, often wonderful, often horrible. Indeed, the wealth of color in these higher worlds is immeasurably greater than in the physical world.

Once the faculty of seeing with spiritual eyes has been acquired, one then encounters sooner or later the beings here mentioned, some of them higher, some lower than man himself–beings that never enter physical reality.

If this point has been reached, the way to a great deal lies open. But it is inadvisable to proceed further without paying careful heed to what is said or otherwise imparted by the spiritual researcher. And for that, too, which has been described, attention paid to such experienced guidance is the very best thing. Moreover, if a man has the strength and the endurance to travel so far that he fulfills the elementary conditions of enlightenment, he will assuredly seek and find the right guidance.

But in any circumstances, one precaution is necessary, failing which it were better to leave untrodden all steps on the path to higher knowledge. It is necessary that the student should lose none of his qualities as a good and noble man, or his receptivity for all physical reality. Indeed, throughout his training he must continually increase his moral strength, his inner purity, and his power of observation. To give an example: during the elementary exercises on enlightenment, the student must take care always to enlarge his sympathy for the animal and the human worlds, and his sense for the beauty of nature. Failing this care, such exercises would continually blunt that feeling and that sense; the heart would become hardened, and the senses blunted, and that could only lead to perilous results.

How enlightenment proceeds if the student rises, in the sense of the foregoing exercises, from the stone, the plant, and the animal, up to man, and how, after enlightenment, under all circumstances the union of the soul with the spiritual world is effected, leading to initiation–with these things the following chapters will deal, in as far as they can and may do so.

In our time the path to spiritual science is sought by many. It is sought in many ways, and many dangerous and even despicable practices are attempted. It is for this reason that they who claim to know something of the truth in these matters place before others the possibility of learning something of esoteric training. Only so much is here imparted as accords with this possibility. It is necessary that something of the truth should become known, in order to prevent error causing great harm. No harm can come to anyone following the way here described, so long as he does not force matters. Only, one thing should be noted: no student should spend more time and strength upon these exercises than he can spare with due regard to his station in life and to his duties; nor should he change anything, for the time being, in the external conditions of his life through taking this path. Without patience no genuine results can be attained. After doing an exercise for a few minutes, the student must be able to stop and continue quietly his daily work, and no thought of these exercises should mingle with the day’s work. NO one is of use as an esoteric student or will ever attain results of real value who has not learned to wait in the highest and best sense of the word.

 

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kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago

Good morning i apologize for not being here last night. I fell asleep round 8:30 when i woke it was nearly 4am. I am reading the post now.

NuNu
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5 years ago

Ok good night folks!

Cami
5 years ago

Good night. Me gone sleep.

NuNu
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5 years ago

I didn’t watch the first video yet but I watched the second and read the post.

NuNu
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5 years ago

Yazzy asked the question about spiritual biography is that the same as the odu?

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

But wi deh ask questions

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

The book club isn’t difficult. The material is complex, for me personally, because I have never dealt with Rudolf Steiner before…this is an introduction to him. I can’t digest Philosphers especially- if I don’t know their biography before hand. I have to adapt to them as a person before their work.

NuNu
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5 years ago

I like this statement but it not easy to do, when we meet people especially one’ s we have an aversion to we should not allow blind judgement to usurp a place of living and vital impression. We shouldn’t only be tolerant of what suits our own personality and ward off anything else. This causes us to remain captives of the sense world. Any inclination we follow blindly deadens us from seeing things around us in the right light…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

“Any inclination we follow blindly deadens us from seeing things around us in the right light…”

NuNu, and we must never follow blindly…and don’t forgot one person right can be your wrong…or their wrong your right. I don’t care who is ahead of me if I don’t catch “it” me nah stop till I do. Again, another person awakening a nu fi yu own.

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

…and have sight beyond that of your peers.

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

ok. But when you a say us…should you be included in the ‘us’ Meji?

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

I would think the reference is to malevolent beings (demons)?

NuNu
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5 years ago

He mentioned beings lower than.man himself. Are these elementals?

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

I think Obara brought that up in her first essay…a mean post…lol

Cami
5 years ago

How can a stone bring about any feelings?

Cami
5 years ago

I’m home…big ups to you phone bloggers…It’s NOT for me.

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Lol! Yuh wi get use to it Cami!

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

I can’t afford to get carpel tunnel.

toy7318
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

ok… Polority… the are the same just different degrees

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  toy7318

Toy, are you referring to the Pain and pleasure that NuNu’s on? If so, then I would thing polarity/polarizing would be a great measurement of such.

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  toy7318

Night nunu

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Sex is a perfect example of both pleasure and pain. also child birth.

NuNu
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5 years ago

When he said we should use pleasure and pain as organs of perception rather than dwelling in them. Is this in reference to what we view as good/bad, light/dark, the experiences we go through whether good or bad we should just learn from them and move on? (Kinda sound cold when I say it like that cause I know things can affect/traumatize but unoo get wha mi deh seh)

toy7318
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

I am still trying to grasp certain things. I have to listen to it again from the beginning

NuNu
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5 years ago

Ok Obara, he said that thinking is the highest faculty we human beings possess in the physical world but we have to be able to think in the ‘right way’ not a dreamy way which leads to illusions and a faulty approach to life, so one must adhere to the laws to thinking. What does that mean?

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Thank you Obara. Can you elaborate more on our spiritual biography?

toy7318
5 years ago

I am looking at the first video

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Ok, also when he says the first exercise should be looking at a plant, animal etc.you must be disciplined and focused observing not only with physical sight but spiritual sight as well then we’ll see that a plant which is green gives off a pink light and a.stone blue or blue-red etc. That’s the aura right? So what exactly is aura, an energy drawn from a particular realm?

toy7318
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

good question Nunu

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

Nunu keep your questions coming!

NuNu
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5 years ago

What does Steiner mean by saying man has certainly the right to turn his eyes to the light but he must first acquire the right Is he talking about the motive behind the need to acquire a certain knowledge? Or is it first building the discipline to acquire knowledge?

toy7318
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

ok good. I am reading comments

toy7318
5 years ago

ok I didn’t know you were still doing class today.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  toy7318

Night Toy

NuNu
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5 years ago

Ok people ask pardon, I just got through the path to knowledge video

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Thank you Obara. I would think so.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago

“Once the faculty of seeing with spiritual eyes has been ACQUIRED, one then encounters sooner or later the beings here mentioned, some of them higher, some lower than man himself–beings that never enter physical reality”

Obara so spiritual sight (clairvoyance) is not a natural gift??… it is a learnt process??

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago

Obara so the author states that the colors of the other realms are immeasurable but we have been learning here that color is what we are taught it is and we are learning in this post that it’s actually a shade until light is reflected on it right…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

I’m in a restaurant with the kids…first time a use me phone here.

So…O i’ve ways pondered about the colors of everything in nature, and wondered how they were assigned and how so much colors came to be. The most fascinating of all things are sea creatures and plants.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago

Good night all my sweeties! Iba Obara scholar Meji! Nunu boooo! What’s up babygirl??

I’m checking in. I’m gonna finish reading up. Sarry mi late. Bwouy di two post dem have me a way wid bare jewels. Mi affi deh back and forth…

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Yailings Yazz!

NuNu
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5 years ago

I’ll check in again later

NuNu
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5 years ago

Are we putting class of until after Thanksgiving?

NuNu
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5 years ago

Knock knock. Anybody home?

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

NuNu…knock, knock. Me out and a try pon me android. I guess the vote was for next week.

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