It doesn’t work.
At least not how you think it does.
Some time ago, I was speaking to a woman who was telling me a dream she had. I think she wanted my opinion, although she didn’t ask, (she says she is very spiritual and can do things herself). After she told me the dream, she mentioned that when she got off the phone with me she would “smudge” (here smudging means a smokey fire) the house using Sage.
I smiled in my mind at her saying this because she was Jamaican, land of spirits, spirits who can come up to you like a human being and talk to you then disappear just like that. Speak to some old timers and they will give you some good stories. Like my father, for example.
He once told me that when he was a young man, he was walking home one night, (this was in the country where only the stars and the moon were lit, there were no street lights, and so the night was dark). The country nights were lonely and nature’s sound came from everywhere. He said he wasn’t afraid of anything non-physical, he had no belief in the supernatural, he only had eyes and ears out for bad men, criminals. As he walked, (he had miles to go before he got home) he spotted a man in a felt hat walking ahead of him. It seemed like an elderly man, although fit and sturdy. Daddy said he thought to himself “Yes! Mi have company now”, so he quickened his steps in hopes of catching up to the man, even if he just walked behind him. As he tried to do so, the man seemed to be further away, causing my Dad to jog trying to catch up to him. He never did.
He would try hard to catch up to the man, but no matter how he tried, the man was always steps ahead. After some time, still jogging lightly in between brisk walks, he got to a place that had some street lights and some men were outside on the side walk of a late night opened bar, drinking. Daddy said the man passed them, but by now, daddy had become suspicious of this man. When he got to where the men were gathered drinking, he asked them if they knew or saw the man who had just passed them? (this was rural Jamaica, everybody knows everybody). All of the men said no one passed them, that daddy was the first person to pass that way for hours. To this day my dad still tells that story and this is the only evidence that ghosts exists to him because he witnessed this himself.
I told this story to let you all know sey Jamaica ah de land ah duppy. Yes, land of wood, water, dancehall queens, and duppy. When the woman on the phone mentioned smudging with Sage, I kept quiet because I knew she always wanted me to teach her, but was too proud or too big to ask for help. After hanging up, I shook my head. I was amazed at a Jamaican woman talking about smudging when we grew seeing our parents “bun out de house” with Frankincense and Myrrh. You didn’t? Well I did. I know about smudging with Sage, after all they are always in the botanicas (spiritual shops), but being a knowledgeable elder, I have never used it. Why should I? It is not as effective as the things I know how to prepare and use, and using sage to smudge the home to remove negativity or bad energy does not work the way it is believed to.
Now I am not saying that Frankinsence and Myrrh (I have my own comment on this in fact, the dos of it and the dont’t) is the way to go, but it is sure better to use than Sage and there is a reason why:
Sage is a sweet aromatic herb that is excellent in many things. It has many health benefits and if you are a chef like me or even just a cook, you will know that to cook with sage is heavenly. But Sage like Rosemary, Basil, Marjoram, Mint, etc are what are called Sweet herbs or plants, and what Sweet herbs does is pull or influence positive energies to come around, or they can be used to heighten your senses spiritually where “light” is concerned. In other words, it can aid your consciousness if used a certain way.
Now Sage, when it comes to smudging, or using it as an agent to clear or remove negative forces, can not work on its own. The environment that needs cleansing or that needs to banish a dark energy that is suspected to be around, needs an agent that has the ability to dispel or to remove dark forces. In this case, Sage and its counterparts (aromatic plants) are too light to do this. While smudging (smoke) is good, there are other things that are needed to strengthen the work you need done; the smoke from the fire sends the message, but it is a concerted effort with the other ingredients.
Ancient Native American Indians (it is said) used Sage in smudging rituals to cleanse their space etc. Any plant that is picked or plucked from the earth to be used for spiritual purposes must be done in such a way that the knowledgeable person who picks this herb knows the incantation to use before removing the plant from the earth so that it comes with its life force, or so that it “wakes up” for the purpose that it is to be used for. In other words, if you go and pick a plant for the use of a particular ritual while not understanding the taboo of the plant itself, (everything has a taboo to it), most often it will not have the effect that you need it to. For some plants, they have to picked a certain time in the morning, for some you must whisper to them in a certain way and with certain words. I believe that those Native American Indians who used Sage for smudging accompanied it with other things along with when gathering it for their purposes, certain rights and rituals (incantory words) were involved in that process.
When trying to remove or dispel negative energies, “demons”, (I hate this terminology ) or unwanted spirits, or vibrations that are not conducive to the human spirit, the use of many things are required. For example, old time Jamaican people used to use Frankincense and Myrrh before moving into a new home. They did this also because spirits and their families reside in every house and space here in this earth realm. There is no home that doesn’t have its resident duppy and dem family .
They perhaps got the idea from out of the Bible when the Maggai’s brought it for baby Jesus when he was born. Frankincense and Myrrh is seen as a banishing agent, and quite frankly, it is. But there are dark forces upon our planet who are not at all affected by it, and so the knowledgeable person would have to know what to use, either in accordance with Frankincense or on its own, to have any affect on these particular destructive forces.
Sage, however, can be used if the environment is already clean and free of any bad or malevolent spirits. It can call good and positive beings to come from where ever they are. However, using Sage as a banishing agent can have an adverse effect on the user, where in which a bad spirit might be in the home, and the person using Sage not understanding what he/she is doing, can be affected because of the two opposing forces that are in the same space at he same time. The Sage, trying to bring light in to a dark space, and the Malevolent energy, resisting the light to come through. The physical effect of this can be a headache for the person(s) involved, an indescribable feeling that overwhelms the physical body like fainting or passing out (which you may attribute to the smoke, but this isn’t so), lunacy or temporary malaise, unwanted spirit attachment and then some. Light and dark can not be in the same room at the same time. So to bring Sage into a space that needs to be cleansed will not work and can be dangerous.
With anyone who has had success with using only Sage, know that there was nothing much that you had to fight there. No dark entity. For if there was, I assure you, just Sage alone would not have worked. So the spiritual rule here is: a spiritual cleansing of negative forces (whether you know if they are there or not, don’t take the chance) needs to be done before Sage or others like it can be used.
An alternative to Sage (for bringing in light and good energy) is the good old Jamaican White Rum. As a matter of fact, the rum has dual effects where in which it can banish the bad and bring in the good all at the same time. The rum is hot and potent, so it is able to banish, and the liquid is clear and clean, so it is able to call forth clean spirits. But please note that there are steps to doing it, especially if the forces in the home are like legions, meaning there are many all at once together within the space to create havoc.
Also note that I am not making any disparaging comments about Sage (read carefully), I am just informing you that it is not as simple as you may have seen it on Google or what your friend has told you. My concern with most people who are into this practice is that you should know that there is an adverse effect that can be quite detrimental for some, especially if you are facing things beyond this world that you may not know how to handle. Spirits are intelligent and much wiser than us. They know before we come at them to remove them, what we will come with.
If you’re using Sage, be sure that your space has been cleansed first, and in posts to come we will be dealing with more things that can assist us…
HI OBara! Everything that you stated in this story is truth! i am currently experiencing this situation, i had to leave this apartment. demons live in this house , and i used sage. After using this i started feeling movements over my leg, then i felt like something came over me i immediately had a panick attack and had to go to the emergency, there was vibrations in my body and i felt like i was going out of mind, i was weak and i could feel movements all over my body. i feel like i had a spirit attactment,… Read more »
Hello. Beloved member of our family passed away recently and few times I felt like his spirit was somewhere close to me. One of my friends suggested me to use a smoke of a white sage in my flat. She said that it helps spitits to enter the other side. I did it several times. While doing it, I was telling the spirit to enter the light. Later on I met a shaman who told me that spirits (both good ones and bad ones) do not like the smell of white sage and that it simply bothers them. It shocked… Read more »
I don’t think you have anything to worry about
So if you use sage in a house it’ll be bad and can harm u ? How do u know this ? How do u know if a spirit is doing something … not trying to say you’re wrong but I was curious .. that’s like saying you’re cooking soup with sage and your gonna get a headache because cooking it is the same as smudging
Lion, PLEASE TO READ WITH SENSE BEFORE YUH COMMENT!
I’m asking if you cook sage .it’s heated and smoking in a pot so it’s kind of the same as smudging it.you said “ when people light sage a bad spirit can be present and light and dark can’t be in the same force . Was u trying to say the spirit can attach to u if you’re using the sage without cleaning the house 1st . No disrespect to your teachings
“However, using Sage as a banishing agent can have an adverse effect on the user, where in which a bad spirit might be in the home, and the person using Sage not understanding what he/she is doing, can be affected because of the two opposing forces that are in the same space at he same time. The Sage, trying to bring light in to a dark space, and the Malevolent energy, resisting the light to come through. The physical effect of this can be a headache for the person(s) involved, an indescribable feeling that overwhelms the physical body like fainting… Read more »
Did u experience this ? Do u know someone it happened too , because this is the only page I seen this information about sage. I never heard a bad story about it besides Christians. Why be so complicated. Why not just answer the question i wasn’t being mean . Unwanted spirit attachment can happen threw the sage , in just asking how do u know it can happen ? That’s all I was just asking just how we ask questions about the Bible
If the fans are on would the sage be blowing outside the house if the door is open and windows
Hope someone can answer this. My dad passed away at his home a year ago and the house has been empty except for family emptying out and cleaning. A month ago I hired a contractor our family has used before to paint the inside of the house. He told my sister her heard my dads voice three times, kind of mumbling while the guy was working over there. We are planning on renting the house and I’d like dad to move on but don’t want to harm dad. He’s not an evil spirit.
Go to the Catholic Church, tell them You want to do mass for your dad, I’m not sure if this is the correct terminology. I think you buy a card for whatever money from Them, he is now added to a list of the dearly departed. I believe they will also make you light a candle for him, but what happens with this list is that at a certain time they will now pray for these ones and call their names, he will be included. Another way to assist him is to set a white candle for him and call… Read more »
What is the proper way to use Sage, and what else is need to banish evil spirits
Your father was lead by a guide of protection which gave him the message to move faster, especially in the night time.
is it possible he saw one of his beings. I remember you saying its at least 3 main we walk with. Something like so…
Obaraaaaaaaa Baby Obara hailings I am loving the new site…still learning it
KB, WHere you been?
Hi O here there and everywhere lol but I always find my way back home! I will call you weekend. You have time Sunday?
Yes mi dear, lol
Good afternoon folks, I’ve always used the sage but I like using the frankincense now since I’ve learned about its usage. Obara what does the myrrh do when you burn it? I think you told us one time that we shouldn’t burn the frankincense and myrrh together
Nunu that information you learned in class remember? so mi nah discuss it here
Good my Godmother, teacher, prayer mamma,hope you’re are having a great day, can you write about libations and how to evoke the orishas, and about appeasing them when they help us in our life situations, and the prayers to pray in Yoruba to them.
Thank you for all your prayers and support.
P.S I am unable to read the comments, is something wrong.
How do you mean unable to read the comments?
Is it okay to burn lavender or cinnamon incense? I was once told that any other kind of incense can draw negative spirits and to only use frankincense and myrrh. I ask because I heard cinnamon was good in attracting positive things and I find the lavender scent soothing, puts me to sleep and I use it for aromatherapy. I use to burn sage but honestly I really don’t like the scent of it, it’s very potent for me. Interestingly I like the scent of white rum. I’m amazed at how powerful it is.
We will talk Charmd
Last Thursday morning, as I was about to leave the house, I was “led” to take the packet of frankincense and myrhh with me (no clue why – but, I try to follow through just in case its Spirit testing if I’m listening).
Thanks to you Obara, now I know next time fi light dem up.
In response to your question…how mi muss know dat ma? Lol
I have an idea but it nuh sound too sensible.
@Intellectual. Everybody ansa, why mek yuh nuh try, mnl
Hi! I would like to mention something. I burn incense at home and scented candles and oils. My question is. My Husband was a maintenance repairman where we live. one day he came home confused, problems with his memory and cognitive problems. I took him to the Dr but his MRI was & is normal. I’m confused could it have been that he picked up something? I need help do I have ti give him a special bath to remove whatever he may have picked up. I am just so worried about what happened. any advice of incense I can… Read more »
Hi Alice, I cannot say what the problem is exactly, without reading him for myself, but if he is thoroughly checked and the Doctors cannot find anything, them it is befitting to look the spiritual route. He perhaps have picked up a bad energy which may be affecting him, he may have been hit (juju, Obeah, witchcraft) spiritually which was either meant for him or somebody else, someone might have switched his destiny, this is possible. Something may have attached itself to him, or he may be going through an awakening process (yes, this may be so also), the possibilities… Read more »
I agree with pretty much everyone’s else idea…what you’re Father saw that night didn’t harm him. The entity helped him walk that much faster to get home without him consciously knowing. It had to be benevolent in its purpose . You never mentioned your Father having issues traveling home before so I’m lost to what made this particular night so special for a visit. Why the visit? Perhaps to prevent a situation that could’ve occurred that night? His thoughts manifest into this fast walking duppy…*shrugs* And another wonderful post…I burned a lot of sage yesterday and this clarifies exactly its… Read more »
Yes Ihla, you and someone else mentioned that the spirit made my dad walk faster probably to keep him safe from danger, that is a good way of looking at it. Thanks for participating in the amswer.
nice post- I am going to add what I think why most people use Sage these days. I think it is because all the paranormal shows on TV uses Sage- Growing up with a Catholic mom (though we weren’t brought up as Catholic) My mother used Frankincense and Myrrh. To this day I burn it twice a week throughout my house and front door. I see sage being sold alot at stores and even supermarkets these days – My mom would also say if you feel real evil is in the house or business to burn sulphur, but I have… Read more »
Yes, but people must be careful with Sulphur, this will be apart of the Obeah class. There are three spiritual secrets that begins with S. You all will learn this in the Obeah class and how effective it can be in our daily lives. I may have written about the three S’s before on here, I am not sure. But I am certain I did not go deep on it.
Thanks for the answer Lincoln, you and yuh one comment dem, den yuh run gone, yuh nuh know sey we love si yuh over here!
I was wondering when someone was going to mention sulphur. Not something to play with.
You got it Colette!
Me no like nuff up me self. When me get upgraded to your assistant me will say more. Lol.
You know me love contribute and share. I will start saying more. You already know me love read and observe though lol
assistant ready fi yuh anytime “When the normal becomes abnormal,evil is at work.” Yoruba Proverb.
Ok let me contribute something!! One of my old neighbors in Jamaica is one of those men who know alot of stuff (you know what I mean lol). anyways he was a very successful business man and own alot of different type of businesses but I can tell you one time my mom and I went to see him at one of his new business places he was setting to open up and he was putting white rum in some bowls and lighting it rum- True I was young I never ask but I can bet this was a way… Read more »
That is true Lincoln, but other things were one or chanted
Nothing is too wonderful to be true if it be consistent with the Laws of Nature
I didn’t answer the question. I am guessing it was someone to lead him astray or to hurt him knowing that he would be so curious to follow? I have heard a lot of stories about country duppy in those days and how they used to love follow people especially in areas with bridges. Who knows what could have happened if your father continued to follow him.
thumbs up on this one Sa-Fo, these answers are great!
I had another thought… if your dad was keeping an eye out for criminal activity while he was alone, and what we fear or think about persistently can come to fruition from the mind; perhaps this spiritual protector was keeping his mind of that by him trying to jog to catch up with him ??
another good one Mikelle, keep them coming
You know, it’s funny but because of the disconnect through the African Holocaust many turn to other forms of knowledge. I agree, Sage is a good sweet herb. Yet, with certain cultures it has different meanings and usages. You know no matter how spiritual you may think you are, you must understand that nobody knows everything. That is the thing with most people. Too much ego. I think the man that night was a protector spirit.
We are all teachers and students Colette, that’s for sure. Protector sound good
Hmmm, interesting!! I can’t tell you how I came to know about Sage because I am not too sure. I bought my first and only smudge sticks , a feather and a gorgeous sea shell to pair with them. This was back sometime in 2013 a little before I discovered your blog. I bought it with Cedar wood oil (if I remember correctly) and doused the stick with it. The person or article did say something had to accompany it. She was Native Indian. When I first moved into my house Obara, I did not bless the space which was… Read more »
Wow Sa-Fo, so cool! The 40 days thing Jamaicans say is from the Bible, but enough people say or believe in something, then an energy will take its form and it can become real. Remember WE CREATE OUR REALITY. I will write about death and the process extensively one day, but oonuh too fraidy fraidy!
Aahh, yes it is true. The three day thing also comes from the bible as well.
Ma?!? Fraidy fraidy is right! A daylight now, so mi good. Looking forward to that post. Death fascinates me a bit only because of all the people I have had to say goodbye to in my youth.
Good – day Obara and all following the light, Obara I think the man your dad was following was Elegba the owner of the crossroads , making the path clear for your dad to reach his destination safely.
I love those stories of old.
Lady of the Nile, good observation, never thought about this one!
That’s actually a good one.. didn’t think of that… I just know for sure he had to be of light…
Fawn when I was a child and he told us this story, mi did swear sey ah duppy, so did everyone who heard it
Could it have been a being “lighting the way” for him for his protection since he was alone and had a long ways to go?
Interesting thought Mikele, hmmmmmm
Great post and just in time. Cuz mi did ago do some things weh clearly a doa kno nuthin bout. Look yah doa fada smh
Drap ha grung an pred wheyyyyy lol!! Cody nuh kill mi o! lol
Your father may have seen either his father or grandfather walking ahead of him that night. Sounds as if the duppy was making sure he got home safely. Great post as always, Obara! Blessings!
Thank you Carperdiem, at first when he told me the story, I thought this as well, but lets weight all the comments, before I share my own.
Since you mentioned that he kept an eye out for trouble on the road, it may have been one of his guardian spirits walking ahead of him for his protection.
May I also say that I thoroughly enjoy your posts. Not only the information, but the delivery.
Valorie (a child of obara meji)
“a child of Obara”, this sweet mi! Good comment, love it. That’s if it’s me you meant. We all have guardians which are different from guides.
Yes, I’ve been able to distinguish them from my guides. Thank you for this info on sage! Blessings!!
I believe that your father saw his future self . He was seeking an answer
An Innovative thought, I love your mind Thea! This is a real possibility