I believe this post is important because many people do not understand exactly how an oracle speaks when you receive a divination. Whether the oracle is in human form (i.e. a medium, such as myself), or an instrument or symbols are used, the language of the spirits can be difficult to understand in certain cases.
Like the dream world, messages through divination can be told in stories, metaphors, symbols or codes. If the diviner is great at interpretation, he or she will lay it out plainly for the patron to understand.
However, when you receive a divination there are THREE important things to understand about the messages you receive:
1. Many times what the seeker receives a reading for will not be revealed in the reading. This is because during divinations, the spirit or the oracle will only speak about what is immediately important to the seekers life or that of his or her family. In other words, what needs your attention now is regarded as more important.
2. Spirits often reveal messages in an obscure way which can be confusing to the diviner but is meant for the seeker to understand. So, for example, if the seeker has a private concern or something the spirit knows is better revealed privately, it will be told in such a way that only the seeker understands.
So for instance, I once had a woman come to me for a reading for the first time. This is back when people would come to my house for readings (pre-Embracing Spirituality days) after the reading ended and the woman was about to step outside the door, I peeped around and called out, “Oh! By the way, the spirits says to tell you that you are healthy.” She simply smiled and thanked me politely before leaving. The following week she called me and told me that the real reason she had come for the reading was because she was terrified about the results of an AIDS test she had taken prior to coming to me. Throughout the reading she did not hear anything about the test or her health, just until she was heading out the door.
However, the topic of AIDS is a very sensitive one and can be embarrassing for some to discuss. So, the spirits reassured the seeker without the diviner knowing exactly what the case was.
3. Some messages can be given but not intercepted, while others are simply not revealed at all. These are the messages that are either destined or who ever the message is meant for has already “signed” off whatever is to come, making it impossible to be interfered with by the diviner.
Let me explain this: Quite recently I read a woman and told her that she should expect to hear of someone being hospitalized and passing away by the end of this year. She quickly asked if it was any of her parents as both were currently ill. I told her I believed it was the mother. She wanted to be sure and so I asked if she would like me to check the Ifa oracle. We did and the oracle pointed to the father, which was strange because it was different than what I had said.
It did not take three weeks before the mother was hospitalized and later passed away recently. Now what is important about this story is that it was after the reading that the mother was hospitalized and I had told the daughter something to do in the hospital in order to save the mother’s life. Unbeknownst to me, she did not do as I instructed, perhaps for fear of what others would think (even though the work given to her was just an ordinary fruit to be used on her mother).
Moments before the mother died, she called me while in the hospital and told me that the doctors were preparing her for her mother’s demise. It was then I asked if she had done what I told her to do, to which she told me no.
This admittance made me realize that the mother would not make it through the night, and made me realize that this was destined to be.
Now, let me break this down further:
The mother had already “checked out” of her life even before the daughter had come for a reading. Now note that the Ifa oracle had pointed to the father and we did a sacrifice to protect him. Why was this? Because the oracle saw that the mother had already chosen to go long before the physical body had actually followed. This is a very real thing. Some people are here with us, walking, talking and breathing, but the spirit has already departed.
So note that the oracle did not give us any solution to protect the mother because again, the diviner can not intercept something that is already sealed and signed.
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Now here is a slightly different example:
A woman called me for a reading about her troubled son. He was addicted to drugs and was suicidal. While I read her, I did see what was actually happening to the son (which I will not go into) and I told the mother the solution to the problem. One of the “problems” was that the son’s spirit had a lot of “Light” and it was overwhelming for him to carry here on Earth, and so this manifested in depression, suicidal tendencies etc. It was a great reading because many things were clarified.
However, the next morning after the reading, or perhaps the next evening, the mother called me frantically and told me that she was on her way to the hospital. Her son had been hit by a car and was badly injured. She sent me a picture of him bloodied and bruised. I called her several times throughout the day, concerned about the boy. However, to my surprise, her tone was very clipped with me. I sensed that she was angry with me because the reading had not revealed that this would happen.
I stopped calling her but it did bother me… why didn’t it come up?
Ifa had even checked the boy the same day I did and it also did not reveal or warn about about the accident.
In the middle of the night, I received the answer. It came to me that this troubled boy who had attempted suicide several times and used very hard drugs had to experience this. With his actions and cries for death, he had to see what near-death was like. It was his own Ori, his inner consciousness, that removed this event from the mother’s reading because there is more for him to do on Earth, but they had to put him in a situation of the energy he had pulled towards himself so that he could ask himself, is this really what he wanted?
The spirit (or Light) of this boy still had work to do. In other words, this event was not revealed because it had to happen. If I had seen it, I would have offered to stop it from happening, and if I had interfered spiritually, the boy would have learned nothing.
Anything that can be seen can be changed, this is my motto. But not everything is meant to be seen, and these are the ones that are not meant to be changed.
Before I end this post, I would like to advise anyone who ever gets a reading from someone: It is always best to get a divination without specifying to the diviner what you want to know. Allow the diviner to speak what the spirits reveal. It is only afterwards if he or she asks if you have any questions, then you can go in with your specificities.
Warning: To any persons who are interested in this lifestyle of being or using oracles for divination, please be sure that this is your path and that you have a mentor or someone to guide you. I currently have a case of a woman who went off on her own reading everyone with tarot cards and is now losing her mind, according to her daughter. Be careful of any spiritual doors you open and are not yet able to close.
Love and light everyone!
Obara Meji
“The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool.” – William Shakespear
Obara, you have no idea how confirming point #3 is. A few years ago, a group of people had a celebration/gathering for one of my elders for all of the work she did in the community. To make a long story short, when I went up to her and looked in her eyes I knew that she was about to transition. Her soul was basically gone, and she had a strange light/twinkle in her eyes and the only other person I’d ever seen with eyes like that was my great grandma the night before she died. Ultimate reaffirmation, through and… Read more »
Hey Inna! Nice to see you here. Nobody ever dies, we just change reality.
BUT If the whole world develops a consciousness that no one dies, then no one would die again. So because we all have this thought that death is inevitable, then death is inevitable. But it will happen one day when the conscious thought that there is no such thing as death will be collective and becomes real for everyone.
I went to an Ifa Diviner and I was asked to (BO IFA) and do other things so as to stop AMUBO. Do you advise I do as the diviner as said. Thanks.
Hi KB, sure but only if your spirit trusts the diviner, then go ahead and do as he says. Always trust your head.
Obara, I swear, I have missed you. Keep the post them coming, cho! just playing I know you are busy.
Greetings Ma, very informative piece. It’s important to find a good diviner that one also trusts to deliver the message given. Before embarking on getting
Reading done, one must first ask their Ori to guide them to the right diviner.
Thank you once again OM for such an insightful topic. I really understand a lot thanks to you. I do have some questions though: 1) you mentioned that using Ifa, sacrifices are made to make way for the good to come through. But what if the message came through a medium other than Ifa oracle (such as yourself)? Is sacrifice also needed? Will the need for sacrifice be revealed? Reading through the post and realising the importance of sacrifices, I now wonder if I may need to offer one in order to manifest the positive things revealed to me. But… Read more »
Hi Lillian, 1) If a person is fortunate enough to find Ifa or an initiate or Awo of Ifa who is competent enough to divine and prescribe a sacrifice, then that person is on the right track. I am a medium among other things, and most often when the spirit uses my body to give messages, they will tell the message and they will give the solution whether if it is for the person to find the solution through a particular practitioner or if the person is ill, they need to seek “physician”. Sacrifice is needed in all cases BUT… Read more »
Thank you for the explanation Obara. I appreciate it
Thank you for this post Obara. Very insightful.
Obara meji, pls does glory and star mean same thing? I am gifted with dreams that do come true and I have had several dreams of him proposing and us being together but their is something I notice about my dreams, when it has to do with my happiness they don’t come true. The ones that will bring about my sadness do come true this applies to every aspect of my life tho I haven’t had any dream of us being apart until recently when we were faced with challenges and had to find solution but this doesn’t happen if… Read more »
I answered you below. Go and see my response.
Great clarification of the process.
Obara meji, pls does glory and star mean same thing? also if your glory has been covered after getting your spiritual cleansing, can you still be with the your partner who you have been told that your stars does match? He also has had his spiritual cleansing.
Hi Vee, yes glory and star does mean the same thing. About the stars not matching, it depends on the diviner who told you this and what he means by it because say for instance you’re coming from a star of fire and he’s coming from a star of water, you and I know that one cancels the other (fire puts water out) so in the material world, looking at these two elements in physical form, we could say that they would not match because one can be more dominant than the other although both are strong. But in our… Read more »
Thank you Obara…when my husband was laying in bed very sick from cancer..He used to tell me (am going)I used to jokenly said ( you not going any where and sometimes I would tell him (say hi for me when you go) Not knowing his spirit has checked out before his body. Looking back now I know why…..Keep spreading the message
Obama meji!
May your days be long..
I’ve been looking out for a new post, it’s been awhile ma’am. Thanks for spreading the lights of knowledge, God’s your strength!
Another insightful post Obara.
The part you mentioned about not going into specifics when getting a reading is definitely the way I happen to prefer.
If it’s a destiny set in stone I would much prefer being in ignorance, especially if that destiny is what I perceive as unfavourable.
Hi Mike, no destiny is set in stone, everything can be changed even death. There is however when the day YOU decide to leave and have signed off on it, that is the only thing that must be.
Thank you madam Obara
Blessed Love Cynthia.
Good day wise one, am new here please I need help have been told that I have egbe but I don’t know how to connect with them am suffering from a lot of things not is working for me despite all my struggle is always failure what can I do please I need help.
By your name I assume you are Nigerian, if you are told Egbe is troubling you, see help from a native person.
Have try some native most are fake just to collect money from me without any result. please wise is their anyway you can help me any where I go they always said why are you suffering like this when am suppose to have abundant and bless people around me that I have good Egbe but am far to them
Pls I don’t know who can help me please wise one
Every time u run across my mind I was wonder what happen not seeing anything… happy to check and see u had post… hope all is well
Hi Ms, Can, all is well, thank you.
Anything that can be seen, can be changed…. This motto stands out to me for a number of reasons. During your post, you state some things can be altered and others aren’t revealed because it’s pretty much signed off on. What about the things that are revealed? Example- good things like babies or job success that are revealed (unasked by the seeker) and never come to fruition. How should seekers handle this?
It depends MrsNika, If the diviner is competent and sees well, and states all these things that are supposed to manifest, perhaps he or she omitted to tell the seeker that they will need the aide of spiritual work to bring these things down to earth. In our tradition of Ifa/Orisha we believe in sacrifice. So whenever something is revealed by Ifa, negative or positive we offer sacrifices to move the bad and sacrifices to allow the good to come, because life is filled with encumbrances, expect them, do not accept them however. The diviner may see a job for… Read more »
Is it also correct to say that sometimes the querent creates or becomes their own roadblock?
e.g reading says dem aguh get married an everytime a man approach dem run him weh….
Not reallY IB, often times if this happens it is either their head/Ori that does not agree with the proposed partner or Egbe is at it again. Often times when we do things that fights against our best interest or what er think maybe in our best interest, Our Ori is responsible, since it has total power over us, If the head is a “good” one, it will lead us to the correct place, If it is a “bad” one it will fight our destiny, or lead us wrong. Egbe is to taken into consideration also.
Got it 🙂
This makes total sense now… Time was never given but additional instructions were after the fact. I think this is where competencies of the diviner May come in to play… Thanks!
You are welcome
Hi Obara. How can you find out if your ori is good or bad?
Through Ifa oracle is the best way, but you can be watchful of a persons life to be able to tell, for example how they make decisions, things that happen to them or things that are revealed to them, defeat or victories, etc. Those things can give you an idea if you are keen enough to notice, but oracle is usually the best way to know for sure.
Greetings Obara!
As expected, you always provide us with details that truly helps us to embrace our spirituality boldly. I have questions…
“Now what is important about this story is that it was after the reading that the mother was hospitalized and I had told the daughter something to do in the hospital in order to save the mother’s life”.
Would she have “interfered” with destiny if she had followed the instruction you gave since the mother had already checked out?
How do we understand or explain the path/life experience of someone who never utilizes divination?
Blessings!
Greetings Bhutu, When I told her what to do to save the mother, it was while we were discussing what Ifa could do for the hospitalized mother via sacrifice. I did not want to press her, so while we spoke about the mothers condition, the spirit chimed in with the solution of this simple magnificent fruit. It was as simple as putting the fruit behind the mothers pillow; The spirit said the fruit would lend it life force while sucking the bad energy from the mother this was explained to the daughter. It even gave her the excuse to give… Read more »
Crystal clear! Tank yuh very much!
yes! I was just about to send out the search party !
lol, I am here o!
Kb exactly! She finally arrived
Sister if someone has claimed to be guided to do divinations for others, what’s steps or signs can confirm that it is truly the right way to go?
Greetings Aurelia, it depends on the guide or the calling they believe they have gotten. Often times curiosity can kill or maim the cat, as well as bring the cat to its destined path. People have studied oracles and have began readings, but the problem is who or what led them there? Who is guiding them from invisible forces that may be malevolent and seeking a novice to latch onto? To answer your question my dear, nothing from this side of the coin comes easy. If you are led down this path, you would have met some personal challenges, such… Read more »