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Yesterday Yw, made a post which sent us into thought, (he does that so well), and we continued the argument here on the blog site last night, but I believe that we still have more to say on this subject so I believe that instead of writing a new post I would continue the discussion today. Everyone’s views is important and ought to give it, the subject brought our peeper New Name, and mek MTH get whey inna speech and views. So let us continue. Below I found this article on the internet and also I have brought over Yw, post onto this page. Mek we go on the journey, the same journey Yw invite us on and see where it takes us.
How can I know if God exists?
Most people in the world think that some type of God exists. But there are still a lot of people that say “There is no God” – but how can you be certain?
Proving that something doesn’t exist is impossible – all a person can truthfully say is that the thing in question probably doesn’t exist based on the evidences they have seen or heard. But this does not prove that the thing doesn’t exist.
An atheist is actually believing by faith that there is no God rather than believing by proof! The only other option is to agree that there is a possibility that outside of their understanding a God could exist but that they have seen no convincing arguments for God. However to say this infers that in the future there is a possibility that they could hear or see a convincing argument for the existence of God.
There are many different evidences that point to the fact that a God exists. A few of them are on this page – they don’t prove 100% that God exists but they do make it very very likely.
If there is a small chance that God does exist then we should really try to find out more about Him and whether he exists as our whole eternal future will depend on what this God thinks towards us.
Absolute Morals
In order for absolute right and wrong to exist there needs to be an outside agent (God) saying what is right and wrong. Some morals are cultural and relative but there are lots that are considered as absolutes. We all live our lives as if there are absolute morals, even if we try to deny them, but the way we live shows what we really believe. Absolute right and wrong infer an outside standard or judge which would infer that God does exist.
Design
The Universe has the appearance of design and purpose therefore, if we were not looking at things from a biased point of view, we would naturally assume an intelligent designer. This is just the same as if we saw some scattered stones on a hill side spelling “I love you” – we would expect that some intelligent designer had arranged the stones in that pattern to communicate with us.
The Universe
There are only three options to explain the Universe existing at all…
a) It created itself – This is illogical as it would have had to exist already in order to make itself and therefore if it already existed it would not need to be created!
b) It is eternal – This goes against all scientific discoveries concerning the Universe. It is a complete leap of faith into the dark as there is no evidence at all to support this idea.
c) An uncaused, eternal, all powerful being created the universe out of nothing – The scientific evidence is that the Universe came into existence out of nothing very quickly. This 3rd option, which suggests that a God exists, is the most logical explanation of the existence of the Universe.
Also read this
https://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/is_god_real.html
https://www.whybelieve.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=105&Itemid=58
Personal View on God, by Blogger YW
NOTE: Please note that these are the personal views, experiences, and thoughts behind my present outlook on how I perceive God. In this I have conviction of belief. I apologize for any offense to anyone because that is not my intent. I invite you all to share your views, even if they are in direct contradiction with mine, because that is how I learn. So, you would be doing me a favour and I thank you for that.
A while back I had a crisis of the spirit where I questioned my ideas of “God”. I began to wonder about ideas that surround the humanizing of an all-powerful, omniscient force. Actually, the thought started after my wondering what it would be like to be a vampire (weird I know). Not the drinking blood and all that but the living forever part. Come with me as I walk you through my thought process: I thought of remaining at one age and watching everyone around me age and die…Yes, I would meet new people but I came to the conclusion that at some point, it would all become boring and monotonous. At that time what would I do? Well, I would have to find some stimulation…some new experience…What would I do when all the “good” experiences were had? Well, it seems logical (to me) that I would have to explore the “bad” ones. Remember, there is no end of life for me, so what would you do when the boredom sets in? After all of that (good and bad) what would I do? Hmmm, I believe that I would simply go numb or neutral.
This made me wonder about my ideas of God. Now, I realize a problem here because I am looking at God in relation to human emotions, however, haven’t we all been humanizing God for a long time? Is God a man or woman? If we are created in his/her image is he multi-complexioned or multi-coloured? Does he/she have all kinds of hair? For me, these questions ruled out the physical idea of God – meaning that I came to the belief that God is an essence or a spirit or a force…That led me to the belief that it is our soul that is in his/her/its image.
Next, I thought: Self – Does God punish the wicked and reward the good? Then how comes horrible things happen to babies who have just been born? How is good and bad judged? Is it on our prevailing rule of laws? Laws of which country or state? Laws of which time period? What is good and bad? That brought me to two different, and perhaps unrelated, thoughts: 1. The conviction that God is simply a force as is nature, and 2. to determine if something/someone is good or bad, you have to peel back all the layers to get to the core or the truth of the issues involved. Being that we all hold different principles in our lives and place value on them differently (as well as our human nature to apply past experiences to situations), then truth becomes subjective to us. From this view we may be tempted to say that there is no truth BUT we are neither omniscient nor everlasting.
Carrying the thought of God in comparison to nature, I asked myself if I thought nature was good or bad. In exploring this thought, I said nature is neither good nor bad but pondered over God controlling nature, or rather, nature acting in or by God’s will. Soon, I came to believe the following: 1. that it is highly arrogant of mankind to think that we can decipher or understand something that is all-knowing, such as God. 2. That sometimes bad things just happen and that is not an indication of any wrongdoing on anyone’s part. Of course, I believe that the reverse is also true. I am not saying that good and bad thing cannot happen by God’s will, it is just that we cannot determine when that is so (takes us to faith). 3. We must be pretty self-centered to think that we are so entertaining that God – all-seeing, all-knowing, and all-powerful – is preoccupied with what each and every one of us are doing at each and every moment in our lives…Again these are simply my thoughts. Sorry for any offense.
Moving on a bit…I began to explore the thought of our soul being in God’s image. Hmmm….Here I thought of the past, the present, and future in relation to humanity. What do all of three have in relation to mankind? The only thing I could come up with was: thoughts, ideas, principles, and beliefs. That made me think about what makes us who we are. This brought me to the belief that we have our physical bodies which tie us to this material plane (remember: I do not believe that our bodies are what make us in the image of God) and our spiritual self which is what is from God’s image. Now I purposely used the word “from” because if we were made exactly in God’s image, then (by my reasoning) we would be Gods.
Now, to me, God includes all thoughts, ideas, principles, beliefs, experiences, etc. held by mankind from the beginning of time. God is spiritual consciousness. We could think of it as the spiritual equivalent of the internet. However, whereas the internet simply holds information and data, God or the Universal Consciousness holds spirit. This is where all our ancestors and descendants reside. This is where we are pre-birth. This is what we are a part of and aware of when we are born but relinquish contact or communication with as we embrace this material plane. I believe the spiritual plane and the material plane exist in the same space but one clouds vision or access to the other. It is like having a piece of tracing paper over something you want to copy.
Last bit as I close: We are living history at this moment. This means that our present is the past of the future and it is the future for yesterday. The implication here is that time is not linear but overlapping. This is a part of the Universal Consciousness….
Ogún ọmọdé kì í ṣeré gba ogún ọdún; ọgbọ̀n àgbà kì í ṣàṣàrò fún ọgbọ̀n oṣù. /
Twenty youngsters can’t play together for twenty years, as thirty elders can’t hold discussions for thirty months.
[Change is inevitable]…….Yoruba Proverb!
All religions are valid as long as it teaches peace and love…..Obara Meji!
There are no disappointments in life, only lessons learned…..Obara Meji
Morning all, just reading the comments.
Morning M!
Good Morning Obara Meji! Good Morning allllll my sweeties! Good morning peepers and everyone. It’s such a pleasure being able to finally run ova yasso fi bawl out mawnin! Yuh know how LONG I haven’t done that???? Damn! Smh…. Obara and all sweeties here the discussions here are so very interesting and exceptional. I love it. I hate when I’m not fully involved but nonetheless I appreciate being able to show my face and dash in mi two cents! Please keep it coming… A special shout out to all my sweeties here that have been going thru rough patches lately… Read more »
Odaroooo genkle people sleep well. I Enjoyed every comment Love n light
Good night everyone! Ive been following along even though I couldn’t comment. I enjoyed reading everyone’s comments this was a great convo. It tek mi bout 30 minutes fi send this comment, (phone issues)
Well everybody ah lef out so good night Teach and everybody weh still deh ere. This is YW signing off for W-ESP
i am here
Yu is one busy oman, night and day.
Night Courtney…sweet dreams…
Ok well I guess thats it.
Good night to all.
Night Courtney, sleep well and thanks for your thoughts and comments!!!!
Good night, Courtney. New Name yu de bout?
Good night to the GOD bless couple and their little offsprings.
Toy, Yazzy, NuNu (disappearred, lol)
Obara Meji, must be attending to someone. Bless up Obara, Good night.
Yw, me nu think this discussion and Perception will end on ES anytime soon. Thanks for opening the doors to such a great and broad discussion. ASE
Me know Cgoh and Nyah sey good night whey de res a onu gone? and why me a hear latin war song?
Me say me did a go cut early,,,me gone.
Night, night my sister (mi nuh care who wah bex, beyyyy. Ah joke ah joke unno nuh start)!!!
lol, night yah me brother. Ty, lol me did think is one a dem exorcism movie trailer post up, lol maybe a me british news site a play. Whey Obara disappear to?
Night Cami… Latin war song?
Cami, I did think about the flying part of being a vampire too. But I use to sey…Bwoy mi haffi go dress warm because it mus cold up deh…mi haffi go fly a night so nobody doan si mi (but mi fraid ah di dark – dem time deh, nuh now, no really nuh now), wha if mi wah…yu know…drop a poopie and mi high up in di air. Dat would be a likkle worse to the receiver than likkle bird poop
Lmao you would be immortal though would u still have regular bodily function
A vampire defecating in flight…lololol what a “Stinker” lololollllll I would terrorize people looking out their plane windows fi fun.lol
Well for some strange reason whenever I buy a cross in jewelry it always broken or lost it never stays in my rotation
Before me had better sense to that image- I wore it because I was a Madonna wanna be (lol) and nothing like de chain, anklet ane earrings. Each would last not even a month before dem disappear, literally.
The guides know better than us.. Into thin air or destroyed beyond repair I know the feeling.
Dem was crosses, literally
Teacha, ah my comment yuh laafing at? Please don’t Miss, mi ded seerus
grung
So the cross really represents death and suffering. So dat mean sey ah death and suffering mi deh call dung pon misself when mi mek di sign of the cross as taught to us in the Catholic schools?
Night Nyaha…
Whoa boy
the only exorcism movie I liked was the exorcism of Emily Rose
no, he died with the cross on, it is not a good thing!
Really I can’t watch that to this day.
Courtney, everything is symbol or sacred geometry, the world is filled with symbolism, the medical world has their symbols, USA, and their money, all religions have their own iconography, the cross is a symbol of death and suffering,
That really creepy now that I think of a Catholic Church service the cross is everywhere on everything. It lends to the tactics of keeping the people enslaved and mentally shackled.
Did he take the cross off Obara? or did he leave with it on?
I am fascinated by the exorcism movies. Would really like to learn more
good night nyaha
Wow so when someone does the cross with their hands does it equate to the same thing?
as usual this has been enlightening. Good night all. Stay well
Night Nyaha. Thank for passing through. I loved your posts..
nigh cgoh
good point Yw!, and when we sacrifice an animal we consume the flesh, and the animal is treated kindly and goes to the slaughter peacefully
I doan like “wastrage”. Yuh like dat word girlie, hehehehhhehehe
One day a young nice looking boy came into my business place and he was wearing a diamond cross, I looked at him, getting a uneasy feeling and asked him why he wore it, him sey him like it, I told him to take it off, didn’t like de feeling I was getting from de kid, as he left and got home he was shot and killed
Wow…
I agree with the sentiment that ppl want the easy way out. Everytime a religious themed movie comes out which depicts the crusifiction people get into the theatrics and it amazes me that it was clearly a blood sacrifice but they make sacrifice and it’s entire concept bad or evil.
Always wonder how they can make sacrifice out to be bad but praise sacrificing a human being….Seems strange to me in a Nacirema way
Leave it to the nacirema to do it up right!
Yw, yu see the hypocrisy?
Cgoh, and all going to bed good night.
Mi si it enuh but is a good talk none di less, weh yu sey?
lol…good argiment…pointing out hypocrites is always made for good argument, lolol
Ty, this is why when an exorcism is done, certain rights has to be performed else what is driven out will attach to another who has not been spiritually prepared
Thank you…
I believe that, Teach.
Can we elaborate on exorcism it scares the living day lights out of me. I even hate watching the commercials at night lol it gives me bad vibes to even see those images.
Psst, mek mi tek time skreechie een
Late as usual
Yu get catch cause de floor squeaks, lol. Welcome
Good night people. I have an early morning tomorrow. Any tech savvy person out there, see if we could have a Skype conference call for one of our discussions.
Night cgoh…
Skype…lol…I better fix up me hair…
Night Cgoh. Thank for the comments. It helped me to iron out some thoughts.
cgoh, that is why I hate to see people wear cross on dem chest, is ah death sentence dem ah puuddung pon himself
lolol, that image is crass. My babe has that pendant, but me love him so much me close me eyes to it…one day I will address it without offending his christian sense, lol
Cami it have di man wid di bend up legs and face in agony too?… Dat get me cross…
At least him no travel with the picture card of the pope like my lovely Catholics…
Is the general crucifix pendant. Ty, fi a moment me think you wrote ” travel wid the card like my lovely Yw”…grung….Yw a joke! lolol joke me a mek! lol
Lol
Choo, me quote not even right! cho, but i got a joke out a it any way…lol
No man, Cami, mi always have card a drap pon people when mi lick di road teeheeheeh
Newton first law of physics, energy is neither created nor destroyed but transferred from one form to another…
Therefore, Ty, I will hypothesis that: the only “image” that we carry from the creator is the soul, from which the energy source is stored, and not the physiology that people think of when they hear that phrase. What yu think of that?
I agree Cami…
It can be used in so many ways…
Yu touch it to Cami? I touch it twice…still working on doing it by will…Di Universal Consiousness
Me touch it countless times though clouds of smoke, dwlnnnnn
Serious ting or a joke yuh ah mek? Yuh touch it without?
Yw, me reject church from before age 5 because I always pondered what people said to me and I was observant (fass, nosey) and what the adults did was always opposite of what they said…plus me tune in more under de weed to and when you deeply meditate under the right strength of herb you will not forget anything.
true Cami, I understand for some the christian reasonings is hard to move away from
in which other direction Yw?
I believe that there is a imbalance towards the negative or malevolent for a bit now. It feels like something is building in a negative way for close to a year now but with increased intensity over the last few months. In fact I have always felt that their has been an imbalance in favour of the negative…Could it be imbalanced in towards the positive (for an extended time)?
we are dealing with live unseen energy every day, today all may be well and tomorrow trouble may come, we must be stead fast and put out good thought, words and vibrations so that the same comes back to us, this is real, again we are dealin with forces unseen
Well didn’t Portugese priest go to Africa and pretend they were all about God and rape the black woman and held them as sex slaves.
Dem and countless others.
continue Cgoh, nuh mind de slow typing, come along at you pace Yes Yw, but imbalance will forever continue, and this is what Ifa teaches, for human beings to be able to get through life, we must continue to make sacrifices, when we sacrifice it creates harmony, but it does not stop from chaos continuing, so we have to keep up and do our sacrifice to crate balance in our lives. Christianity tried to say this in their argument of the Christ dying for human beings, but they wrong when they said his sacrifice was the ultimate, no way, it… Read more »
Then is it possible to be imbalanced in the other direction?
They viewed what Christ did as the ultimate sacrifice because they want an easy way even if it means believing a delusion. Joshua himself said if you want to be my disciple deny yourself bear the cross ( continue my struggle ) and follow me. He was fighting against the political powers of his time, that would not be an easy task now and I’m sure few would follow even if Joshua came down himself and told them that. People are always looking for the easy way out. The way that has the least responsibility. My great grandmother on her… Read more »
“… alone can’t bear the cross …” I agree with that one in the sense that I think it the choices we make that affects the “scale” of negative and positive energy in this realm.
She obviously knew that all along, but uttered it at a crucial time that your mother should be paying attention to her words.
but Yazzy in your argument you are likening your earthly behavior to the creator, you cannot do that…God has no human emotions, therefore God can never be good or bad
Obara, is the “made in ‘his’ image” that does that to Yazzy and others.
It makes sense to me, because if life was always happy. I don’t think that we would grow as humans and maybe we would forget that there is a supreme being.
I’m with yw I feel an imbalance in this world. Everything inside me says this is not how it should have been. We are feeding something more than the other.
I must be honest…It wasnt until I came here that I started looking at God differently. Not in a bad way. But here I’m learning that God is neither good or bad, like nature. I don’t know if I’m ready to swallow that whole pill yet but I can swallow a half. Growing up in Christianity we were ALWAYS taught that Good is good and that the devil is the bad one. That didnt make any sense to me anyways but naturally if something is drilled in you over and over and over again… You begin to believe it and… Read more »
“If God is neither bad nor good, why does our hearts need to be good? Why so much emphasis on the good? Why not place emphasis on the bad? Doesn’t everything need a balance?” – YAZZY loveee it!! To me this is where choice comes in….Who do you choose to be? We can never be all good or all bad but what are the choices you make or will make?
Yazzy yaz ! glad fi si yu mama When im talking heart being good im thinking more on not walking with hatered towards others. Not waking n plotting to kill my enemies. Ramming ur car into the person who cut yu off pon di road. Just blatant evil towards others. Mi nuh ina dat…good heart a do it! its a choice i make to have good vibes, good energy. God is not good or bad. But in my life ive had good times n bad times. During both i know Gods still there his energy gives me courage to push… Read more »
You got it Yw
Teach, I have a question: I know that chaos is needed in the world but do you think that there is presently an imbalance that is causing that feeling like something is brewing?
is whey everybody??
in order for a life to come into this world, there must be noise, the cry of the mother, her also her nine months of burden and when the child comes he bawls and bawl
if there is a devil, this it is called chaos and if so it is very much needed or we would cease to be
and this is why there will always be need for sacrifice
The earth spins on an axis am I correct? so in order for order and to be there must be chaos study nature, the rain falls and nourishes the earth human beings and all within, but then there comes a time when the rain can come with such force it kills, also the wind blows and cools the earth and its inhabitants, and also the wind can kill and destroy, same with water and you name it. often times when a person suffers, the worse the suffering gets the closer the person gets to redemption, through healing or death it… Read more »
This is like balance? To have one there must be the other…Through destruction there is creation…from the volcanic eruptions you get land and life flourishing from the ash?
On point, sir. Obara states each as a counterbalance wid an equalizer.
Yes Nyaha here goes
can you say more about this realm and chaos? interesting
Courtney we all have a personal relationship with God I believe, because we are all fragments, particles of the creator
Yw, wars and all these things will never stop, remember the earth cannot exist without chaos, this how this realm operate!
Yes, Teach, I can appreciate that but it is still disgusting to me…
This makes sense to me in an odd kind of way this realm is the place that souls reincarnate so the chaos is necessary for the lessons souls must learn and live through. Is that remotely correct?
Fighting wars for religious reasons is just a scapegoat, it was never the true purpose to fight, economic ruled things then and now, nothing has changed. Look at Islamic state or as the president calls it ISIL. They are fighting for a united Islamic regime or Islamic caliphate but selling oil for 25 dollars a barrel and an income of an estimated one million dollar a week has nothing to do with that caliphate. They also make millions off ransoms which is a huge part of their revenue. Look at the U.S in god we trust and the rest of… Read more »
I agree with your points on war cgoh…Israel claim to the people dem is that it the Old Testament…it is their birthright… A wonder who write da part deh?
CGOH, I have to agree that no war is fought on the premised “pitched” to the public..
High 5!!! to de maximum!
Cogh, clap yuh self, you are so correct, limitations of the mind, ah dat dem ride pon, while keeping the sheeps asleep!
Said limitations are historical. Europeans couldn’t read so the scriptures were in pictures on church wall and stain glass. Those same illiterates pass on their picturegram (lol) interpretations down the line, then they become qualified as missionaries to pass on the word…yeah right!
Cami just the word missionaries get me bringle…u know how much damage dem do I order to spread di word …smh…
I hate to hear about mission trips to ja
Ty, people blame government and police for Jamaica’s failures, my truth…RELIGION is we problem. Jamaican’s don’t know how to divide religion from government. Notice the other progressive countries do.
I agree cami…same scammer dem in church, same scammer in govt…the church have too much chat a ja…dem want to stop everything to make ja better…dem no want flex work week, no Sunday horse racing, no casino, no legalization of weed…I could go on…
Every bad man a ja when caught is by the help of the clergy…sandokan, natty Morgan , dudus etc…
I cannot stand dem…
Obara, exactly! I was thinking of that earlier today, what if I was an ancestor in that realm how would I describe God. How would an Orisha describe God? All of it would be based on their reality. Its like talking about a tree, if you describe the roots in detail, you are right, if you describe the leaves in detail you are right all those are perspectives of the same tree based on your perspective. I can say I KNOW God and at the same time I can say I don’t know God. At it feels like I am… Read more »
I like, I like
My take on God has always been different. I grew up in the catholic faith but my father never believed in organized religion. I was the baby and got away with a lot my brother and sister both got communion while i just never got it and my parents never pushed. I was always liberal in my thinking and looking back even as a kid I knew I lived before (the rowing I got for Those comments chile plz) I was never into kneeling down and praying, I always spoke to God like my friend who I could tell anything… Read more »
Courtney, to me, that makes perfect sense because spirituality is internal while religion is external..
Nyaha, same so, there are many realms and so God has many possibilities, no one has ever met God, that would be impossible I believe, God is absolute
Obara they have taught us to shun these realms and try to convince us that they do not exist
Christianity in my opinion and experience is a scam, like Ty said. They use lies, symbols, money, human emotion anything to push their agenda forward. The very fact that they call for you not to question it is crazy, especially when just about every book in the bible talks about wisdom and knowledge (if I remember correctly, its been several years since I read it. Come to think of it maybe its only the old testament. Anyway you get my point LOL)
The amount of wars waged in the name of many religions makes me sick
Ok Teach
Nyah’a love to see u…yazzie we missed u
I actually like the summation of the Hindus. I have been thinking of how to describe God and it is very very difficult. God to me seems to “come through” intermediaries including nature, other people, thoughts, Deities etc. God is everywhere and at the same time God “allows” for entities to be what they are. For instance, if you disrespect nature there are consequences and Maat will handle that cause that is what Divine Order is about. If you do something wrong while on earth (I believe) you will “pay” or your children (even children’s children) will pay. There is… Read more »
So, Nyaha, would you say that there are rules to the universe? And would you be willing to explore the thought that God is in essence those said rules?
Hi Nyah, like yu style.
Yes Nunu and I responded to his comment
hey Courtney!
Unoo si cgoh comment up top?
More than see it…mek yu neva share de quote, NuNu? lol
Mi phone mash up! Thank goodness mi neva show off pan mi ipad wid di crack screen caz a it mi affi draw fa ya now. Goodnight again my sweeties. Mi know mi M.I.A but it’s not by choice. Plagued wid bare crosses and then there was work. Happy to be with you guys tonight. I feel so comfy and ready fi mingle! I hope that everyone that was facing rough patches are doing way better. Nunu boooooooooo!!!! A miss yuh suh till mi sissy boo. All now mi still de fret pan yuh bad bad. Is like mi tan… Read more »
Thank yuh Yazzy! Mi love how yuh juss buss een awhile ago!lol
Buddha says for us not to concentrate on God, put all our mind, thoughts and efforts in being the best we can be, in other words the creator already did his job, we must now do ours toward mankind
Yes, I think I have a view along that line. I think we owe it to ourselves and humanity (if not to that Universal Consciousness) to be the best that we are able to be..
Yes yw , but tapping into the universal consciousness has been a challenge for most…we are taught to not embrace it
Yw, see Ty set the pace pon universal consciousness…many cannot go there because the Anglo religion say it’s DEMONIC. Yet, the Asians (see Obara reference Budda) live in spiritual peace with them self. Only rift for them is the muslims, and the Africans rift is muslims and christians and dem self in the western hemisphere.
Di amount of money they would stand to lose if we were to all move towards that route would be staggering. A dat them fraid of
Yes the fame and money is what continues to drive these religious corporations…
Religious Corporation…Beautifully put.. Original lobbyists….Monetary system… taxes…world bank…hmmmm
The church is the biggest marketing scam ever…
Sorry was at the wash house
Ah MTH first mek mi know sey people thought of Jesus as God, I neva knew
in Ifa/orisha, it is said that although there is one God, that God has several personalities (mi ah put it my own words), Olodumare is the part of God which we humans know and have heard of, he/she/it /what communicates with us through the Orishas, while Olorun the sky God is unknowable!
I can see the idea behind that (I think). God is too vast for us to comprehend. Therefore, Orishas or any equivalent would be an aspect of That vastness broken down to a point that we may be able to make sense of… That mek any sense, Teach?
I refuse to accept that God is tyrannical and I refuse to believe that I serve a wishy washy God.
The hindus says, Brahma (God) created the world and went to sleep, leaving everything to his intermediaries
Den wrong pon de sleep part but right bout the agents.
Yw, God from a religious point of view is too human, I believe, as a spiritualist this is how I know when people are still asleep.
“God from a religious point of view is too human” This is what first started my transition. It is just propensity, the human factor plays a big part in religion. We have a need to make things conform to us, in a way we can understand and feel connected to it. This is one of our biggest hurdle as a species, we cannot think outside the concept of what we can observe or put togethet with our understanding, thus we create what we want. Sometimes it’s necessary but other times destructive. That’s why those scamming hypocrites can perform their mockery… Read more »
Same so cgoh…it is also easier to conform…it harder to do the self work
Parasites crippling to what it is suppose to mean to be HUMAN. Let mi comment to you quickly before Nuns get mad pon mi. NUNS MI COMMENT< MI COMMENT
Odaro (goodnight in Yoruba) Nyaha!
seet deh Toy, yuh run gone again, lol
good evening everyone
Nyaha!!! Happy to see you again!!!
Hey, Kia, God and its possibilities I believe are written within us, within the innards of every living thing, so what we believe or who we believe God is I think we are all correct, as Cgoh says it is all a matter of perception
Hey Ty!
soon come back everyone
Maybe I am just slow. When I use to go to church I really thought that Jesus was God reincarnated, because you know in the beginning of the bible it says the,word, and the holy spirit
Toy, yu NOT slow. This as been used in mantras bout “jesus is god”. Jesus can never be god. Ask you self:
Why would jesus be praying to himself while being crucified?
*has* but then again… as long as it patwa compatible it a get use! dwln
No Toy, I cannot say that you are slow because from birth we are being taught. Modda, Fadda, Teacha, Preacha….We get so use to having information given to us that we do not seek it and if we do we rarely look within. If you do not look within, how will you see the spirit inside you?
Now that I understand that religion doesn’t hold the only truth when it comes to God, and as Ty had mentioned we all have to look intrinsically.Someone mentioned that spiritual journey starts with motherly love and fatherly correction. what I find now is that on each persons journey we can hope to find that motherly love which is that harmony with nature and awareness of our surroundings(which we have been leaening here), fatherly correction and that is our higher consciousness tapping into the cosmic consciousness which is that everlasting God energy and in time as we continue and mature, and… Read more »
Good night everyone Odaro glad to my fambo
I agree Yw, and also his examples of benevolence
Yes teach. I used to be confused when they would say that you should not compare yourself to Jesus. Then what is the point of the story (I would wonder)??
C go H….See go H…Sea go H…H go sea…H gone a sea????
Nile tek one and Sea tek di next….Ah wah ah guh happen next
is whey cgoh gone fadda God!
well if that is your point Cami, I do agree
Cgoh, mi glad fi si yu. AMH drop some big opinions on us in the day. Drop some for us two nuh, bredren..
I cannot truly say I know what God is or even if I had a close experience with him, I think that’s a matter of perception. If a person believed hard enough, they could convince themselves that a piece of paper has intellect and eventually they could relate with that piece of paper. Nunu and I know a quote that we’ve been reciting for years ” a person will believe something because they want it to be true or they are afraid it’s the truth” I think this applies to how human being on a whole construct thier theory (… Read more »
Cgoh, that quote so applies to religion and the religious or to people seeking indoctrination for acceptance.
I agree that people will believe what they will but what do you believe? Do you believe in God from a religious point of view? If so, what is that view? Would you agree (or disagree) with any of the blog? What part(S)?
Toy!
tap, tap, YW, LOL
Cami, I do however understand the need for an intermediary, in christianity it is Jesus real or not and so in all religions and traditions
intermediary yes, but not one on no equal footing wid de creator. Christians give fi dem intermediary too much equal standing with the creator…all have him as being the driving force a de “trinity” or bout jesus is GOD. Rubbish.
Teach, ah suh yu good? One hand typist, blow wow…
I am here night everyone.
Night Toy!
tyoe wid yuh leff, ah one had mi tyoe wid most time, tap, tap, tap!
cgoh, I would love to hear your take on God!
lol, me still a lef onu early.
This mek mi look pon Oprah different, she endorses him plenty
Fi all we know oprah go get har likkle bath and head wet up ever so often and har likkle bokkle a oil, dwlnnnnnnnnnnnn
Mi sure ah dat but she know how to operate within the system
The name God and what it means to me, has always been a source of strength, I guess that stemmed from christianity which taught me from young to cry out to God in distress, that has never left me, even though I threw away religion