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This Thursday October 23rd 2014 in our book club discussion our Cami have provided the material which you will find the link below, it is a video, with an Introduction to the subject as well. She also will be the one to moderate on the topic placed forward. Cami stepped in and moderated for me last night and it was very good, well done Cami and thank you very much. It is unfortunate that I did not see my regulars to show support,  Ty who is always present was not feeling well, we love you Ty, but it is what it is, nuff love same way. Book Club begins @ 8pm, please make an effort to be here, knowledge is power, let us learn together.

This movie was chosen so that we can explore the social ills projected in the movie, along with a focus on victimization of those unable to help themselves.

 

Here is the are points of interest for tonight’s book club discussion:

1) What social ills are featured in this film?
2) Who are the real victims in the story?
3) Is there a theme of hope, perception and fear presented in the story line?
4) There’s a anthropological theme here as well…what is it?

If I had the energy to be an educator- I would use this film as a teaching material for sociology.

****Hope to see as many of my fellow bloggers tonight. Peepers if you ever wanted to discuss this movie feel free to drop in.

 

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Yw
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Yw
5 years ago

Ok we will pitch it to Obara and see what she thinks. Maybe 5-8 pics and phrases? or we could just list however many and touch on what we get through leaving the rest for the next week..

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

I’ll second that, Yw.

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago

The thought behind this is to agitate our mind to the point where a picture or a phrase can lead us to many different thoughts….

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

Yw, I like that mind excercise. Last night we had a bit of it and Ty dis a mash it up.

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago

I have a ….exercise we could try for book club discussion: What if we set up half hour (or a set time frame) intervals where discuss a picture or sentence, Like: http://www.vtcoa.com/forums/f17/never-give-up-22173/ : What do you think of when you see this pic? What lesson if any is in it to you?
What you think?

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

I see commercialization through marketing.

again, me soon come back

Courtney
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5 years ago

Lol morning ppl

Yw say I dare you to say something lmao

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago
Reply to  Courtney

Bleart neat!! Courtney, you not a peeper, though, or are you thinking of converting? Don’t do it….stay a speaker. That is how I learn bout milk tea, Thanks:)

Courtney
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5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

I would never I say look at Yw mashing all the poor peeper dem corns early in the am!!

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

Hominey corn porridge nice in the am…hee

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

Morning me Spiritual Brother…peace unto you.

You hit a button…some peepers need to start turn into speakers because we have some strong topics. So if you not shy and have a load of strong substance to contribute- come on down, lol.

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Good Morning, Obara. This morning I was meditating and ah chant “Om, Om” and thing bout you. Heeeheee

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago

Morning, mi sister… Hope all is well. Blessings to Obara Meji and the rest of the board. Peepers……I seeeeeee yooouuuu…dare you to saaayyyyy somethinggggg…….

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

Boy…me would a eat some hominey corn porridge yah now.

It early…so me soon come back. See me start me mischief over the new post, rotf

Cami
5 years ago

Me gone since I’m talking to my self. Good night Yazzy, Obara and peepers.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Omg, gn/gm professora Cami….I fell asleep chica. My bad! My apologies. Great job moderating …mi have 45mins to finish sleeping before mi git up fi wuk…

Blessings Obara mi sweetie… professor Cami and all my sweeties here…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Morning Yazzy…had a feeling you may have snoozed off. Thanks

Have a bless day at work at work.

Good morning Obara, and all ES family and peepers.

Cami
5 years ago

Yazzy, yu nu see miss lady have 2 husband for more than 25 years, lol

Cami
5 years ago
Cami
5 years ago
Cami
5 years ago

Babes bucket list good…he’s older. Mines in progress because I believe in having my own and once babes retire and old I want to do for him, my little peeps (niece and nephews) and parents.

See how much people I list off? that’s the matriarchal culture set in me.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Obara and Cami I know you both agree with Polygamy. .. but why?

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Yu memory good! lol

Polygamy has benefits. For instance, a man marry is first wife and she cannot conceive…why should the man who is fertile live life without an offspring to suit the woman who can’t conceive? Why should the woman be deprived of a married life because of her inability to conceive…bring in the next woman and if she can conceive welcome to the household, if not then out she go (lol).

On top of the fact that the practice out date any law or argument against it, coming from the African forefathers. It represents unity/community building.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Cami the theory sounds good but mi have yet fi see an actual stable and healthy polygamist marriage…

Why take in a women into the fam to be we’d and wife just fi her womb contribution when yuh can pay a surrogate fi hab yuh pickney and gi yuh and kip har dutty rassssssswssssseeeee outta di pichu??

Not me babygirl!

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Yazzy, see a post two videos fi you. And of course you haven’t seen a healthy polygamous union…because they aren’t out there for us to see.

The same can be said about monogamous marriages…many healthy and probably more unhealthy one than healthy.

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Look how much woman a yard swear they are alone and have nuff unseen mates, lol Sometime you find out bout mate when Mr. man send you packing or you see him packing…monogamy and humans are kind of strange “bed fellows”. Good bless the male and female who can resist temptation.

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Yazzy Me tell yuh sey mi agree qid polygamy

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Mi nah tell nuh lie pan yuh Obara. . You and Cami oke conference one time and den unuh both agree seh unuh nuh mind polygamy … a me too modern but unuh into dat…

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Yes… seeit deh now. Mi all memba more.. mek a quote yuh “you would affi be di second wife cah di fuss wiwife wuda deh deh a tek up space chu comfort and stability and him use to she but a di second wife dem love”

Cami nuh tru?

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Me is ah jealous gal mi mussi did drink mad puss piss dat day read again Yazzy

I said I understood when it was explained to me from the African perspective but I did not say I agree

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Dat was just handing fun nt being serious

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Mi rhatid… yuh see how mi fass.. mi tek yuh c-rus c-russ eenuh! Ok.. it was fun and joke. Cool nuh. Mi can breathe now

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

I understand it, but I do not like it

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Obara mi nuh like it. Mi cudnt dweet. Dem ooman deh married to politician… dem done have a trained poker face… don’t mek di looks or di lifestyle fool yuh. Behind closed doors a bare misery… jealousy. . Hatred and all types of ish but each women know why they do it. Cami, yuh see how yuu always a highlight yuh babes… jus pichu him marry you and smaddy else and fi dem smaddy… no sah. I wonder if women that are in those types of marriages will end up poisoning the minds of their young and possibly send a… Read more »

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Free will yazzy, free will. If Larry had a few him wouldn’t de a road a fass wid people pickney.

If the midpassage didn’t take place and Christianity wasn’t imported you may have a different tune about the practice. Me not leaving babes so if miss thing want to push in a fi har business, a two caretaker him will have. And trust and believe me don’t have psycho babble esteem problems at all.

Cami
5 years ago

Manipulator: that was something that Marcia was damn good at.

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

YazY yuh know fi wha

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Obara no man. Mi tink yuh did a sort out suh mi did a pass di kush pan di lef hand side… and a meds and ting… a your time now?

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

In ah de marrows

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Nuh seh a wud mi doops. Just stay suh 😀

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Obara mi cyah believe seh big big Courage post got realigned tideh and a miss it! A mawnin mi need fi guh ova deh… da post deh is one of the greats…all inspiring … ingenious

Cami
5 years ago

lol…I meant to add “he” and his partner’s offspring.

Cami
5 years ago

Yazzy and Kia, have you any experience with a Marcia type?

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Cami, my mom was a Marcia type (in regards to the exploitation part). I remember I dated a wealthy guy when I was a teenager and introduced him to my mom and he was Atleast 45… I feel pathetic thinking about it now but when you’re a teenager you really don’t give a eff.. do ya? Ish got real when I decided I would break it off with him… mom says “yuh tan deh nuh do weh yuh affi do fi ole him.. if yuh cuzin dem cudda get dem han pan him, dem whine him weh from yuh long… Read more »

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

And are the Marcia types any different from rich white mom’s that “encourage” their girls to “marry up????”

To me, Marcia smart nuh hell… just street smart doa. A ongle santa claus did a get boops

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Thanks for sharing that Yazzy. My mum (many mums) hinted but never went there like your mum. Sometimes I think the thoughts run through her mind of what I let go…but I’m the don’t care type as well.

I’ve been Marcia the schemer many times…even at this moment I’m scheming on what to do to come up…don’t we all? lol

Only thing is…my come up isn’t one of grandeur- just plain comfort.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Cami I always admire your honesty and openness. Truth be told we allll yearn for a good come up and with that we Plat and scheme but we use different words to mask/describe the intent but nonetheless the intent is the same… just better dressed up to those who are more self righteous…

If grandeur comes, I’ll take it but I, just like you, prefer a more realistic come up 😀

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

If grandeur comes I would distribute it to those lesser than I…after me make myself comfortable and again, my comfort is simple. Me babes say all he need in life is a good house, money in the bank and a good vehicle, lol. And that’s me with the exception that I like a little low key luxury, now and then. If I buy babes something I have to get it on sale or not let him know that I payed a good penny for it (take off the tag) and him give away things till I have to tell him… Read more »

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Mi love simple man eenuh! Obara and Cami beat unuh chess unuh have nice babes…
They sound very strong and confident which only real women can handle those types of men. Cah yuh see seh hif dem nuh too hab nuh back bone wi tun dem inna santa claus… lol… (j/k) …or maybe not…

Cami I hope when unuh have what’s on the buckit list them unuh good but I do wonder if simplicity still exists in this lifetime … in this society.

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Marcia own is inappropriate because Larry is way out of Tanya age group. I love how the school girls do him up! him bright gone a school gate.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

But what I wanna know is… what’s the difference with other cultures that have arranged marriages and these marriages are obviously for financial security for the family that had a daughter to offer…

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Den if de oan uppa top can sell har young son batty to big man, mumma like dem deh bout long time! Fi Mi Muma Neva sell mi but when de land lord did ah look and mi tell har she ask him bout him but continue to feed him ah day time when him come fi food could Neva be me, nopes , de duttie baby fadda did show mi lickle sista him duttie black buddy and mi Neva know till me an him left if mi did know ah suh courage ooda Mek mi run like ten batty… Read more »

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO Obara yuj eva see ten batty man run yet?? Wooiieeee??

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Mi love and respec mama but she neva shuda continue fatten di dutty germz bukit wid nuh good food. Mi nuh like when ppl wabble wabble up wid nasty naiga!

Mi memba seh di dutty man show di girl him crotch! Yuh bawl it out already and mi cud feel di shame … mi fraid a dem man deh… dem sick stomach

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Marriage once upon a time wasn’t for peasants, lolol. Marriage was for the RICH. Rich man have legacy to pass on so the daughters (see Yw reference, lol) were set up to marry men of means so that both house would combine their fortunes…we see their last names today day. Remember women weren’t allow to gain (exceptions rare) so marriages were forced or some sly fox worked his way in to inherit because the “weak” woman needed a guardian when papa gone. I need to research (can’t recall right now) when peasants , lol got marriage permission…I think is when… Read more »

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Obara, I swear when men look fi sleep with their women family members they are just as wretched to sleep with the offspring of his partner…no boundaries!

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Why stop there Cami! They have no boundaries therfore they would not only sleep with their partners offspring but even THEIR OWN! Chuss mi pan da one deh… mi know bout

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Dranco

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Yazzy I am waiting in you enuh

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

When Obara?? We hitting up the town?? 😀 .. yuh know I live di hexcitement! 😀

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Arrange marriage a fi financial benefits….that mess in Asia and the middle east is force marriage. Front line/pbs have a documentary of some nasty, decrepted ole man with some little 11 year olds as wife!

NuNu
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5 years ago

Good night folks, my phone’s about yo die, in the morrows, sleep well

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

I had a wonderful time NuNu, sleep well.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago

Hey Nunu Booooo, Obara, Ty, Cami Cams and all my other sweeties and peepers and di whole a unuh…

I didn’t get to watch the entire vid Professora Cami **shamefully** but I distinctively memba di mom a try pimp out her daughter to di ole gray tun nasty “santa claus” and that is strictly a product of muma greed! How got the damn nerve… but perhaps it was a lesson she had to learn for she later took matters into her own hands. Sometimes kids can teach parents to be better parents.

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Well, fi someone who watch likkle a de movie you sum up exploitation part well, lol.

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

True word a bush Yazzy!

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

I am off to bed… Thank you Cami for this, it was fun…Obara thanks for sharing your space… Fambo thanks for sharing your thoughts…unno know seh me sing di song dancehall queen a go a mi bed pon dis holy and auspicious day…lol

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Our space Ty, gn

This blog is ours

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Night Ty sleep well. Make sure bubble n whine while u sing lol good cardio

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Kia yuh love bruk out eeh? Good night boo.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Night Ty… bwouy as mi come yuh gone. Mine yuh smell mi eenuh…

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

No man Yazzy, I had a long day and have to be up early tomm.. It a bun me fi sleep but a tired…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Ty, it is always a pleasure to interact with you. Good night spiritual sister and pleasant dreams.

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Grung! Yw mussy jump out a him sleep and a say “Marcia a you dat?” lololll

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Ok Ty Ty. Sleep well sweetie. Blessings to you and the fam..

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Grung

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Night Ty!
Kia and Cami lolol unoo bad ie nuh

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

Hey Yazzy

Cami
5 years ago

Yazzy, rope in and share your thoughts. Me will BRB.

Yazzy
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Yazzy
5 years ago

Goodnight sweeties. So sorry I’m late!

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Howdy Yazzy!

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Yazzy

Yazzy yaz night

NuNu
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5 years ago

Most people want to live a comfortable life and that usually means being financially stable ,suh yes

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

NuNu, sometimes the financial stability turns into greed. Because I cannot understand, for instance, why rich people need a mansion the size of a small apartment complex and they have no children, then to top it off they hardly live in the darn house.

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Dat puzzle me too…dem also have car collection and do not drive….

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Status, same with having all these cars etc. separates them from everybody else

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

More time them misareable with all them cars n square footage. Them would scorn my little hut that makes me happy lol

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

I’ve had trust fund babies who were perfectly contented with squatting on the coach smoking weed, lol. and it’s because of what they are expected to do why some of them continue the culture of gluttony. But it sad when poor people find monetary fortune and start to adapt to gluttony.

Cami
5 years ago

For me true wealth is to have a stable roof over ones head, constant source for food, clothing, hygiene, peace of mind, free will (freedom of movement included) and HEALTH.

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

I like this …

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

For most of those money is the answer

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

lolol…You can go build hut a bush, go a donation site go get clothes, grow a little garden in the bush, catch wild meat, use chew stick fi keep mouth right (lol), go free clinic fi medical issues, exchange service fi goods…Zero dollars…priceless LOLOL

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

Eena which society!!! Certainly nuh this one. Lool pon di bredda whe guh all the way up inna the Appalacian mountain guh live same suh an dem tek helicopter guh up deh and haul him fi guh pay tax fi di land lol

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

a lie! GRUNG! him should a pay him taxes before heading out of society! lololol

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Hungry is a rass ting…

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

The prize was going to lift them out of poverty and for them it was perceived as wealth…can you say that this prize would be your wealth…

Also it had me thinking bout what prize would I need?

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

The prize would be gaining recognition beyond just “ordinary vendor” and to get the money to adjust the economics of the home.

NuNu
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5 years ago

Knowledge, wisdom, understanding, have that and know how and when to use the information. yuh good to go!

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Agreed. People have to learn contentment with what they have. Not meaning dont strive for better but be mindful of wants n needs

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

A quick question for the board,…what is wealth!

Beyond food, clothes, shelter, basic needs and entertainment,..what do we need?

I was thinking of the baba on the video last night and when he said babalawos live long because they do not go after material wealth…

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

What is wealth? If we think of needs and wants, then wealth, to me, is anything over needs (in a material sense). Wealth – an abundance or profusion of anything; plentiful amount – There is a distinction between material wealth and spiritual wealth, however, one affects the other as we see in relation to wealth and moral decay. This can go much further if we want it to…

Cami
5 years ago

Security: That damn taxi man selling information.

Cami
5 years ago

REPOST:

Yw: Larry is more like religion than God…He offers hope but want payment of flesh.

Larry is a flesh buyer and peddler. He wants the flesh of the innocent females, and the death of a Samaritan and that of the helpless.

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

So true…

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Ty get it dung pat lolol

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

Theme: metamorphosis ….Marcia to dancehall queen, junior to mad man, priest to lover from bad man

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Me glad Yw gone cause the two a you is trouble! lololllllllllllllll

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

This is a big one to me. Marcia did seem to become a better mother in the latter part of the story..

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

Di taxi man was funny too…

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

As a mother I cannot look as Marcia as good fi sell har dawta

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

I think I am of the same mind as you on that one, Obara. I knew a lady that had a daughter that she did not treat right (at least to me). The mother was nice to me but I just could not like her because of how she treated that little girl…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Taxi man chat too much. Him is the male version of Marcia to some extent.

Cami
5 years ago

NuNu! WHere you run gone?

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Shi gwaan fi detention slips loool Nunuuuuuumek its morally correct for give urself a slip lol

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Mi nah pay unno no form, shape or sort of mind! Kia don tes’ mi, mi wi gi yuh bout dozen slip sed time!!!!!!!

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

lol…she said she nah pay us any mind, lol

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

Big up Cherine Anderson , she did an awesome job and went on to a great career,..she sings very well…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

I enjoy Cherina music too. She is talented

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

Other themes:

Perseverance: Marcia practice up her dance moves till she became a queen

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Theme of Fear: Marcia being afraid to be known as herself. Alavine tried to capitalize on the fact that Marcia was just an “ordinary Vendor” parading as the mystery lady.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Remember when she change clothes ina taxi loool driva dida peep

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Is smile orange, harder they come or country man the taxi driver was in…I know that face.

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

Di dressmaker was funny and she was a great way fi dash out di labrish…there is always one a dem…lol

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Grung Ty! Every last one of them. Young or ole dem cut, pin, stitch and gossip, lol

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago

Sorry but will have to ketch up tomorrow. Sorry, sorry….Night all!!!

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

lol, Yw go sleep man and comment tomorrow. lol

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

Fear: both priest and Larry used fear to manipulate the actions of others…

Marcia feared for a continued future of poverty with no way out…it was this fear that made her decide to take action and find a way out…she fumbled but then found a way…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

The fear that Priest wield has Junior traumatize till him became mentally displace.

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

“If you compare yourself with others, you may become vain and bitter; for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself” – Desiderata
When we focus on the labels of society we are subjugating ourselves to prescribed behavior patterns. In my opinion, junior’s mental lapse came from his “manhood” being challenged. Nuff people love “floss” but confidence and arrogance are too different things. Knowing that there are greater and lesser than we in this wide world should keep us humble; accepting that may keep us sane…

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

As to the themes:

Hope: Marcia hoped that her daughters would have a better life, amount to more and not struggle as much…

Perception: the reality we live is what we believe…u have to dig deep to change it…

Marcia perceived that her initial way out of poverty was thru a bad man or big man…both using her and her kids…

Alavine is really a quiet person but have to put on a persona to give a perception of being a dancehall queen to survive…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

High Five!!! I wish they went in a little on olovine’s character.

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Me too…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Hi hello…me to! Mind NuNu sey we lack morals……………..GRUUUNG!!!

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Don’t make fun of me Cami! Mi neva want gi out no slip tonight iw nuh but yuh deh push it!!!!!!!!!!

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

Me nah like, me did fraid a priest….lol

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Me find him evil ass sexy! lol I’m weird like that, lol

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Yu see i come with priest line looool him voice sexy ooo

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

The eyes were deadly…

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

Marcia wanted to break the cycle of poverty for her daughter…every mothers hope…it took time and different techniques to find a way….

She also deep down wanted her daughter to find love and a good man…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Ty, I thought she was going to flip when Tanya had the dude sitting in the house. I liked how she invite him to stay for fish dinner and how she rap with Tanya while cleaning the fish.

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Me too Cami…it shows that deep down she wanted the best for daughter…she just never had the tools…in that same dialogue Marcia talked about her long ago dreams that we’re never realized…it was the most telling seen for me…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Every time I watch the movie a catch the dialogues in depth along with new outlooks.

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago

Night all. sorry I is late (1 detention dat Nuns?). Gwen read tru…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

Hail up bro. Male input needed.

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Yw

Mi feeling compassionate tonight Yw, yuh get a pass juss for today sir, one seat lef inna di back

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago

What about the families that are torn apart by this?! can u imagine the hate n resentment towards marcia if larry wouldve gotten his way. What about the families seperated when mommy send a chile away to keep them from a peodiphile. Kmrt

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

True Kia…it damages everyone…

It can also damage a community cause men like Larry never stop with one kid…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Can you image that this is reality and these land sharks build them reputation up as “helping the poor” when in fact they are sexual predetors.

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

True Cami … Uncle Larry now can be father Albert from the diocese, sister Mary Allen, brother James from church, etc…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Nope they never satisfy smh

Cami
5 years ago

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/fran-hall/is-the-matriarchal-woman-_b_1462366.html

http://www.multiculturalcanada.ca/Encyclopedia/A-Z/j1/5

I can cite countless academic journal articles…Marcia is a figure of strength and just one story of countless Jamaican women.

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago

As Obara says, there are many roads to one market…the route or choice we make is our own… Poverty will mek u do things you never thought of before… I cannot imagine selling me children’s body… The price would be to much and the damage could not be undone…

Luckily Marcia was able to find another way…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Hey Ty…yes “many roads to one market” in deed.

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Cami doan mix mi wis Marcia

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

No offense, but when she told Tanya about her dancing life before having her and not finishing school isn’t far off. And I know for a fact that a lot of Country young girls run leave country when dem “catch” belly.

NuNu
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5 years ago

Her street smarts, perseverance and love for family made her find a way and gave her a chance to change her life so kudos to her

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

The world full of Marcias’, but as a Jamaican I’m more exposed to this type of Marcia. I didn’t answer the last question…the answer is that in anthropology studies Jamaica is classified as a matriarchal society.

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Didn’t it seem.patriarchal because of the movie?

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

No Nunu, Marcia was the head of household. She even dress the part and behave in such a masculine manner during the domino game. She even abandon the emotional role and fled when the police came to the scene of the stabbing.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

marcia a hustler long time Nunu shi jus did forget dem skill set deh. Marcia mek a way wen shi feel hopeless shi find courage n hope again. Shi a bubble n whine til shi all win competition. Looool

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

We never see Marcia back story, for all we know Marcia was also sold to a big man…

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

It look like Marcia have a back story similar to Obara’s pregnancy story. I noticed the ease of communication between her and her parents when she took Junior to the country.

It was funny when the father say if him want to kill him self alright but why him a mash up me chair…dwln

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Lolol kia! Wha yuh a seh di skill set come back to remembrance when dem needed

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Marcia back story highlighting her baby fathers would be good…I know say she is damn cunning and may have gotten rid of her baby fathers in the same way she dispatch Priest and Larry.

Obara Meji
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5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

She bad mine!

NuNu
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5 years ago

Cami mi not even think a di “feed” part shi thinking about, a di “how mi ago pay fi yuh school” part, mi get it still cause mi couldn’t encourage my daughter like that

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

And make it worse tanya a bright student but that type pressure from larry cudda make her start hate school. Marcia neva think bout that smh

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

Ok. Cause the school fee is Larry main role.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago

Cami the likkle one facety bad lol i affi lissen again for that part. Night Ty

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  kiabubblez

Notice she peeping when larry acting up? Marcia wouldn’t be able to groom her for no man.

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Obara si courage come up deh, you had courage in the face of adversity without having to put your morality aside in order to survive. Some people too afraid to face that suh it easier to sell fi a few dollas

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

NuNu, you keep on saying morality…what is morality? Osun protect prostitutes so it can’t be that “immoral”, it made women independent fi centuries long before women could gain any form of employment.

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

Yes but people don’t think like that Cami

Yw
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Yw
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

Nuns, mi ah nuh people?

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  NuNu

See Yw a ask yu a question? lolol

People think like I do NuNu, we just get write off as being “immoral” or nuts…lol either way they are rebellious titles and I love that, lol

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

I would rather sell my self than sell my child. Ijs…

NuNu
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5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

It is unfortunate that the poorer you are the more you are devalued/degraded, used and cast aside by society

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

Larry is a scavenger!

Poor man gain wealth and turn around and exploit those left in his/her former life station.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Wid a big head. Head big like wharf dawg lol is nuff peoole like larry in this world

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

If I was that mother me prostitute out my self before I give away me child as a sex toy/slave…or him stay home and tun dunce.

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Cami memba shabba seh it cyaa dun! Same ting mi seh…Mi seh tax n tear!!! loooool

Cami
5 years ago
Reply to  Cami

Kia! pass the smelling salts over NuNu nose de, lololol Tax and tear…all me feel faintish to…move ova NuNu, lolol

Ty
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Ty
5 years ago
Reply to  Obara Meji

So sad… Even worse, there are more stories like these…

kiabubblez
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kiabubblez
5 years ago
Reply to  Ty

Millions Ty smdh so sad

Cami
5 years ago